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Kindle and Nook readers bash high e-book pricing with angry one-star reviews

53 点作者 sunsai大约 14 年前

11 条评论

thalur大约 14 年前
I have no probelem with people leaving 1* reviews without reading the book, just like I have no problem with Amazon removing those reviews (and only those reviews). Yes they are annoying, but they are also one of the few <i>visible</i> ways to protest. While "not buying the book" will probably be effective in the long term, an indivudial non-purchase isn't going to be noticed by anyone.<p>A similar situation to this frequently arises when big games are released on Steam. Amazon then gets flooded by 1* reviews from people who can't get Steam to work properly on release day or something.<p>I also find the opposite very annoying: when fans rate something as 5* before it's even released.
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cletus大约 14 年前
Sadly, Apple is largely to blame for this mess. Well, if you ignore the publishers.<p>Ebooks started as a wholesale pricing model. The publishers would sell them to the likes of Amazon at some fixed price. Amazon would then set their own price. This is very similar to the brick-and-mortar pricing model. In some cases Amazon would sell those books at a loss in an effort to grow the Kindle platform.<p>Publishers didn't like this system because they saw cheap prices as devaluing their content. Publishers are also caught in a backwards mindset where they think if the physical book costs $25 then the ebook should cost $25 even though the latter has no printing or distribution costs.<p>What's more, even if those costs were the same, ebooks should still cost less because there is no resale market, a fact that digital content publishers seem to ignore.<p>But Apple's iBooks came along and not only gave the publishers what they want, they <i>required</i> it. And that is the agency model, which allows the publishers to set the price, a move I argue is anticompetitive.<p>This put Amazon under pressure and the publishers got their way so the pricing is now largely out of Amazon's hands (sadly).<p>Review bombing is an interesting tactic, one I actually support if done for the right reasons. It was done on the PC game Spore for its ridiculous DRM (initially a limit of 2 (?) activations before EA relented).<p>What publishers--and in fact all digital content producers--are doing with pricing and DRM is beyond a joke. Sadly the Obama administration (the DoJ in particular) is filling with ex-RIAA lawyers so you know which way the wind is blowing there.<p>At the same time we have the RIAA/MPAA behind closed doors (with the government as willing accomplices) trying to equate downloading a song with terrorism (eg ACTA) in terms of enforcement priorities.
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joshfinnie大约 14 年前
What I find funny is that this would have never happened if they charged the standard $9.99 e-book price (which in itself is absolutely too much for e-books).<p>The $5 difference is causing quite a stir which I am sure is not worth it in the long run.
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tialys大约 14 年前
This is why I hate the 'star' review system. It very often leads to users trying to 'punish' the maker of the product, and creates an incorrect perception that the product itself is flawed. This might be a great book, but someone browsing through titles will only see that it has a 1-star rating and assume it sucks. I really think there'd be a lot of potential in some sort of hybrid review system that could weed out these sorts of garbage reviews.
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neutronicus大约 14 年前
Perhaps they should be more honest that this is temporary, "early access" pricing. Perhaps they should say "The Fifth Witness: Electronic Early Access Edition, $15", and promise "The Fifth Witness: Electronic Mass Market Edition, $7". After all, early access is a reasonable thing to charge money for.<p>I also seem to recall reading elsewhere that authors get a much bigger cut of hardback sales than they do of mass market paperback sales. Perhaps this should be advertised more prominently?
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pasbesoin大约 14 年前
A review's a review. <i>Including</i> the product price as compared to perceived value.<p>It seems the sellers want to have their cake and eat it, too. You sell an e-Book for more than the hardcover -- be prepared for people to lower the value they assign to the <i>product</i> that you are <i>selling</i> at <i>your price</i>.<p>Otherwise, just relabel your review section to "Whore for us".<p>(A bit strong, admittedly, but this is starting to stink of hypocrisy. Pooor Amazon! /sarcasm)<p>EDIT:<p>At the same time, people should learn that the physical costs of a physical book are actually a fairly small component of it's overall cost. IIRC, often a dollar or two (US). Amazon et al. discounts on physical books often represent in good part the lack of retail overhead.<p>If you want bookstores, <i>you</i> need to patronize them. And decide that you find enough value to pay the additional expense that keeps them in business.<p>When a staff member helps you, directly or by stocking/shelving an item you otherwise would not have found, realize this and make a decision to "pay the freight".
bhousel大约 14 年前
Shameless plug: I built a site to let people borrow and lend Kindle (and soon Nook) books. You can make wishlists of books you want to try out, and hopefully some kind person who owns that book will loan it to you.<p><a href="http://booklends.com" rel="nofollow">http://booklends.com</a><p>Ebook pricing is unfortunate, and a lot of that has more to do with the publishers than with the authors or with Amazon/B&#38;N.<p>The Fifth Witness, mentioned in the CNET article, currently has an average rating of 1.7 out of 5:<p><a href="http://booklends.com/books/4d959054461b264b37025bd3" rel="nofollow">http://booklends.com/books/4d959054461b264b37025bd3</a><p>It is not lendable, unfortunately. Again, blame Little, Brown, &#38; Co for that. I think it would be in their best interests to allow their books to be lent to others. While I have no data (yet) to back this up, I believe that people who borrow a book that they enjoy are likely to buy more books from the same author.
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Tichy大约 14 年前
"And that means more bookstores will be closing."<p>At the worst case they'll just have to change. Maybe they'll become cafes where you can borrow a kindle at the counter for browsing the selection.<p>Or they'll become like lists on Facebook.
naqabas大约 14 年前
I think really what consumers are angry about is that the kindle/nook used to advertise the fact that ebooks were cheaper than buying the physical book and initially they were. Wouldn't you be a little angry now if you had invested a lot of money into the kindle/nook and justified it by the cheaper price in books? You can't blame them for ranting a little.
dkl大约 14 年前
I recently emailed Amazon customer service and complained about this very thing. A couple of days ago I bought dead tree versions of books that were 20% more for the kindle. I will not buy a kindle version of a book that is more than the dead tree version. Period.
locopati大约 14 年前
Don't kill the messenger?