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The QAnon Conspiracy Theory: A Security Threat in the Making?

69 点作者 onyva将近 5 年前

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dogman144将近 5 年前
One has to believe there&#x27;s a deliberate intelligence effort signal boosting this a fair bit, meshed within the various layers of accounts&#x2F;platforms propagating it.<p>Similar example of practices: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.fireeye.com&#x2F;blog&#x2F;threat-research&#x2F;2020&#x2F;07&#x2F;ghostwriter-influence-campaign.html" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.fireeye.com&#x2F;blog&#x2F;threat-research&#x2F;2020&#x2F;07&#x2F;ghostwr...</a><p>The above relies on a fair bit of identity building as well, so Q&#x27;s source&#x2F;breeding in more anon platforms helps all the better. Intense stuff.
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aleister_777将近 5 年前
It seems like the media is talking about this more than anyone else at this point. There have literally been over 2000 articles written to debunk this. The content has been banned from reddit, twitter and other platforms.<p>Why is everyone so vigilant to call it &quot;dangerous&quot;? Why not flat earth and chem trails? Why all the attention for this one thing?
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kodyo将近 5 年前
When people lose faith in the people who are supposed to be telling the truth, they look for other things to fill the gap. The media is unreliable to say the least, government is compromised and corrupt, the academy is both self-serving and &quot;woke.&quot; Why wouldn&#x27;t alternative explanations for things seem appealing at this point?
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dogman144将近 5 年前
Is it just me, or is there a fair bit of down-voting occurring on pretty rational takes on this thread.<p>...and the post got flagged!
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082349872349872将近 5 年前
Compare &quot;The Paranoid Style in American Politics&quot; (1964)<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;harpers.org&#x2F;archive&#x2F;1964&#x2F;11&#x2F;the-paranoid-style-in-american-politics&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;harpers.org&#x2F;archive&#x2F;1964&#x2F;11&#x2F;the-paranoid-style-in-am...</a><p>with examples from 1797 onward.
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raphlinus将近 5 年前
For discussion, I advance a hypothesis that&#x27;s occurred to me: at least some of the same people are behind both QAnon and c19study.com. I don&#x27;t have hard evidence of this, but in looking at the social graphs around the c19study Twitter accounts, I see significant QAnon representation (the account @LynnFynn3 shows prominently in the intersection of the two).<p>Like QAnon, the people behind c19study are very careful to hide their true identities. I find it plausible that they&#x27;re marketing the same basic stuff to different audiences, c19 to people who fall for stuff that sounds like science that isn&#x27;t.<p>Of course, there&#x27;s another explanation for the overlap, that people who are susceptible to conspiracy theories promoted by anonymous instigators are likely to buy into both. This hypothesis is consistent with them being completely separate, just using similar tactics.<p>I have a pretty good idea who the coder is behind the c19 site. If you&#x27;re a reporter who would find this useful, or somebody who is better than me at tracking this stuff down, feel free to get in touch. (Note: other people, including Brian Krebs, have had a crack at this)
quercusa将近 5 年前
Is this an online version of Jim Jones and the Peoples Temple, in which a charismatic (though here anonymous) leader knows how to push the psychological buttons of a lot of disaffected people?
luxuryballs将近 5 年前
To be clear I think the allegations of wrongdoing are FAR more likely to be correct than the theory that someone in the government is actually doing something to stop it.
aleister_777超过 4 年前
It&#x27;s also notable though that some themes that Q covers, such as Trump being spied on, are showing progression with a significant milestone today with the guilty plea of Kevin Clinesmith.<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.thedailybeast.com&#x2F;kevin-clinesmith-former-fbi-lawyer-plans-to-plead-guilty-to-falsifying-documents-in-russia-probe-per-report" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.thedailybeast.com&#x2F;kevin-clinesmith-former-fbi-la...</a><p>Q first mentioned Clinesmith in August 2018.<p>So it raises a question of why the huge pushback and dedication of resources from the media, when, they could just be reporting on it instead of trying to discredit it. Sounds like whatever is going to happen is going to happen regardless so we&#x27;ll all just wait and see.
notacoward将近 5 年前
&quot;in the making&quot;? No, in the <i>now</i>. It doesn&#x27;t matter if half the people pushing all this are just bored teenagers in it for the lulz. Even if that&#x27;s the case, they&#x27;re feeding into the genuine delusional and often dangerous behavior of a few who seriously believe in it. They&#x27;re also feeding enough garbage into public discussions that real content is obscured, much like jamming a radio signal with noise. Especially with an election coming up, QAnon is already a security threat.
bearjaws将近 5 年前
As someone with a family member who is falling into this non-sense, I will tell you it is extremely dangerous.<p>We essentially have some teenager on 4chan trolling an entire audience of probably hundreds of thousands of individuals. They now believe Trump is our savior and the deep state wants to take him down. There are violent undertones to the entire conspiracy and I do worry they are going to turn into terrorists.
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bsenftner将近 5 年前
This is the result of under funding education, and allowing the boundary between church and state to blur. Those with a religious fairy tale cause and effect understanding of reality, QAnon makes perfect sense. While anyone with a firm foundation in reality sees pure nonsense.
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raphlinus将近 5 年前
Also recommended, a deep dive into QAnon from the Atlantic: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.theatlantic.com&#x2F;magazine&#x2F;archive&#x2F;2020&#x2F;06&#x2F;qanon-nothing-can-stop-what-is-coming&#x2F;610567&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.theatlantic.com&#x2F;magazine&#x2F;archive&#x2F;2020&#x2F;06&#x2F;qanon-n...</a>
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hammock将近 5 年前
What if we thought of QAnon as a political party?
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secondcoming将近 5 年前
America is bat-shit crazy.
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m_ke将近 5 年前
A good listen about QAnon: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;youtu.be&#x2F;lf3xlx9K0DI" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;youtu.be&#x2F;lf3xlx9K0DI</a><p>Big issue with QAnon is that unlike normal standalone conspiracy theories, this one engulfs all other ones into a single plot.
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fouric将近 5 年前
&gt; retaining the central belief that a cabal of powerful elites control the world, using their power to covertly abuse children<p>They&#x27;re going to need to be more precise about the Pizzagate conspiracy, because the above wording very closely describes the Jeffrey Epstein case, which has been proven to be true.
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99_00将近 5 年前
All misinformation is a risk and threat. But Qanon seems minor when compared to others that are perpetuated by major news organization and undermine democracy: Russia collusion conspiracy theory, fine people on both sides hoax (the belief that the President called neo-nazis fine people).<p>These have much more public and institutional support than QAnon.
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tomc1985将近 5 年前
Looks like the site is down -- it&#x27;s a conspiracy! &#x2F;s
xhkkffbf将近 5 年前
Okay, but why is this theory so different? There are lots and lots of conspiracy theories from every corner of the political sphere. Why is this one a real security threat?
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