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Fungus at Chernobyl absorbs nuclear radiation via radiosynthesis

366 点作者 karimford将近 5 年前

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barbegal将近 5 年前
I am skeptical that this fungus absorbs radiation significantly more than the equivalent amount of water would. The paper [1] isn&#x27;t very clear about possible inaccuracies in the results and I don&#x27;t understand why this experiment hasn&#x27;t been repeated down on Earth. The mass attenuation coefficient of the fungus is 0.234 cm^2&#x2F;g at 100MeV whereas water is 0.0166 cm^2&#x2F;g according to this paper [2].<p>[1] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.biorxiv.org&#x2F;content&#x2F;10.1101&#x2F;2020.07.16.205534v1.full" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.biorxiv.org&#x2F;content&#x2F;10.1101&#x2F;2020.07.16.205534v1....</a><p>[2] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;apps.dtic.mil&#x2F;dtic&#x2F;tr&#x2F;fulltext&#x2F;u2&#x2F;a278139.pdf" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;apps.dtic.mil&#x2F;dtic&#x2F;tr&#x2F;fulltext&#x2F;u2&#x2F;a278139.pdf</a><p>Edit: I made a mistake in this comment, see child comment for correction.
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YeGoblynQueenne将近 5 年前
&gt;&gt; Scientists are thinking of shielding astronauts and space objects with a layer of this radiation-absorbing protective fungus.<p>This reminds me of Adam Stone&#x27;s discovery in Cordwainer Smith&#x27;s <i>Scanners Live in Vain</i> [1]:<p>SPOILER ALERT SPOILER ALERT SPOILER ALERT SPOILER ALERT SPOILER ALERT<p><i>Adam Stone has basically discovered that the radiation that causes the Great Pain of Space not only affects life, it is absorbed by it. So, surrounding yourself with other living creatures will prevent you from feeling the pain yourself. He eventually settles on building a shield out of live oysters, since they lack any central nervous system to experience pain with.</i><p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;tvtropes.org&#x2F;pmwiki&#x2F;pmwiki.php&#x2F;Literature&#x2F;ScannersLiveInVain" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;tvtropes.org&#x2F;pmwiki&#x2F;pmwiki.php&#x2F;Literature&#x2F;ScannersLi...</a><p>END SPOILER ALERT<p>_____________<p>[1] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Scanners_Live_in_Vain" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Scanners_Live_in_Vain</a>
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burtonator将近 5 年前
There&#x27;s simply no way that this type of fungus could absorb enough radiation simply because it&#x27;s not dense enough.<p>If you want to absorb radiation you have to block it which means it has to come into contact with matter.<p>The only way you can do this is to have either a smaller volumetric amount of something that&#x27;s dense (lead, gold, uranium, etc) or a LARGE amount of something less dense (water, concrete, etc).<p>If you&#x27;re just talking about an organic organism, sure, it can use the radiation BUT you&#x27;d need to have a MASSIVE amount of it in terms of volume and weight.<p>Simply put, the fungus itself is sparse when looking at it from a subatomic perspective. Most of the radiation passes right through it.
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qubex将近 5 年前
What’s astonishing is not the ability to block radiation (after all, biology will always defer to chemistry first, and physics second—there’s no way biology can come up with something that exceeds the capabilities of its substrates) but rather life’s way of rapidly adapting to make use of whichever energy source it can find to eke out an energy budget to thrive on.<p>P.S. Who else heard Dr Ian Malcom say “<i>Life... finds a way</i>” in their head?
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gpuhacker将近 5 年前
For a nonvideo source of info on this:<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.biorxiv.org&#x2F;content&#x2F;10.1101&#x2F;2020.07.16.205534v1" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.biorxiv.org&#x2F;content&#x2F;10.1101&#x2F;2020.07.16.205534v1</a>
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freeflight将近 5 年前
Interestingly enough this resilience of fungus, and even mold [0], to radiation has been a bit of a problem on the ISS [1].<p>[0] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.sciencedaily.com&#x2F;releases&#x2F;2019&#x2F;06&#x2F;190627121252.htm" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.sciencedaily.com&#x2F;releases&#x2F;2019&#x2F;06&#x2F;190627121252.h...</a><p>[1] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.colorado.edu&#x2F;aerospace&#x2F;2019&#x2F;11&#x2F;01&#x2F;mold-space-nasa-grant-study-space-station-fungus" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.colorado.edu&#x2F;aerospace&#x2F;2019&#x2F;11&#x2F;01&#x2F;mold-space-nas...</a>
dogma1138将近 5 年前
Protomolecule, not good.
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einpoklum将近 5 年前
Ok, but:<p>1. Is it doable to maintain a 21-cm thick layer of fungus, at all, let alone in space, for a prolonged period of time?<p>2. Wouldn&#x27;t it be easier&#x2F;simpler to replicate this radio-synthesis mechanism in a non-organic setting?
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vffhfhf将近 5 年前
It used melanin to convert radiation to energy.<p>Damn.<p>We are so much alike.<p>Its kinda funny every living organism in the earth is kinda related to us humans and we to them.<p>Earth is just a biosphere.
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Tade0将近 5 年前
Is the fungus edible?
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tyingq将近 5 年前
There&#x27;s a movie plot that&#x27;s fairly adjacent to this and even has pretty good ratings: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;m.imdb.com&#x2F;title&#x2F;tt7425298&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;m.imdb.com&#x2F;title&#x2F;tt7425298&#x2F;</a>
ulmas将近 5 年前
I&#x27;m actually surprised this cheaply written two paragraph article with no references is being discussed here.
DeonPenny将近 5 年前
This is one of the most nature finds a way things I&#x27;ve ever seen
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peter_d_sherman将近 5 年前
Two words:<p>Mars Mission.
jbverschoor将近 5 年前
It’s the Access Virus Ti3 Synthesizer
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adontz将近 5 年前
Is not it how Godzilla works?
basicplus2将近 5 年前
Why are so many videos using computer generated voice overs?<p>I find find it a real turn off.
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blickentwapft将近 5 年前
You know where this leads?<p>The blob. A 1959s sci fi horror movie in which a radioactive fungus takes over the world.<p>If not today then very soon.
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