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What coronavirus will do to our offices and homes

43 点作者 karimford将近 5 年前

18 条评论

thewhitetulip将近 5 年前
I don&#x27;t think this will happen. People are affected by Corona, yes, but that is because corona is a thing today.<p>Once corona goes away, only the paranoid will follow these guidelines.<p>Pretty much majority of the population will go back to normal way of life unaffected.<p>Climate crisis is irreversible and nobody gives a shit about it. How can we think that corona will change everything?<p>That being said, if it does change people then it os a very good thing
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riffic将近 5 年前
This is an overly fantastic crystal-ball piece and I don&#x27;t expect things will be as far changed as this article is trying to sell us.<p>It reminds me of those old AT&amp;T &quot;You Will&quot; commercials, which did eventually come true but in a vastly different way than first envisioned (newspapers by fax? come on.)<p>Also, most people (baristas, truck drivers, all those invisible service people and laborers in between) don&#x27;t have jobs that look like this. This completely dismisses their experiences.
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hn_throwaway_99将近 5 年前
Ugh, I certainly hope not. In one sense, yes, covid has accelerated some things that were already in transition, like greater work from home. But why would we think this increased isolation, sanitization, and separation would be a good thing <i>outside of a pandemic</i>? There is no need for wide hallways, limiting people to 2 per elevator, copious hand sanitizer use, or touchless everything to avoid &quot;grubby&quot; buttons when we&#x27;re not in a pandemic. Yes, germs are a risk, but there are also risks in thinking for some reason it is healthy to live in a sterile, and separated, environment.
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smabie将近 5 年前
Ah yes, like the geodesic domes erected over major cities that filter the toxic air, contaminated by the bioviruses released during the Great War. The mud-girls and mud-boys of the Sprawl fight over the scraps of obselete tech left behind by the chrome plated gods of New Eden; watching over the condemned above the gravity well.
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asveikau将近 5 年前
I don&#x27;t think social distancing will be big in 2025, just as it wasn&#x27;t in 1923, the same distance away from 1918.<p>I really hope we don&#x27;t see a late 20th century style flee of cities either. The problems with that from last time are well documented.
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orliesaurus将近 5 年前
Reading this article one thing shocked me: Do a lot of homes not have double glazing in the UK? I thought it was a standard, because it&#x27;s so much more efficient at keeping cool&#x2F;warmth inside&#x2F;outside (depending on season)
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mikehollinger将近 5 年前
So I’ve been wondering about this. In the states at least the trend in home design recently seems to have been toward big open floor plans with a couple of large spaces, a kitchen, and bedrooms.<p>We have no such concept as “breakout” rooms at home for studying or work, or other things that might demand privacy or focus. I certainly don’t want to go back to the “old” 70’s style home with a bunch of similarly sized partitioned rooms, but I’d like to have some small “focus” spaces or something more cleverly named, similar in concept to the breakout rooms that run along the edge off most shared professional office spaces.<p>Some homes have a library or home office, but I’ve yet to see a place that has two offices of equal size. Some people have converted a spare bedroom into an office - but - what if you actually need the bedroom, or in our case, what if you need two offices?<p>I’m sort of waiting for that to become a thing. It’d be pretty sweet.
karimford将近 5 年前
“One day, the virus will subside. It could be eradicated. But even then, life will not simply return to the way it was before Covid-19. Spurred on by the coronavirus crisis, architects have been rethinking the buildings we inhabit.“
ahelwer将近 5 年前
I&#x27;ve certainly made the jump to a fully-thought-out home office[0], but masks are conspicuously absent from this article - facial recognition? Good luck when I continue wearing my nice face covering in public long after this specific virus is under control.<p>Things like the virus-killing HVAC system are interesting. Makes you consider our current buildings from a future perspective, like in what ways they&#x27;ll think we&#x27;re hilariously backwards, hygiene-wise.<p>[0] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;ahelwer.ca&#x2F;post&#x2F;2020-08-09-home-ergonomics&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;ahelwer.ca&#x2F;post&#x2F;2020-08-09-home-ergonomics&#x2F;</a>
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yosito超过 4 年前
Realistically, the changes will be the ones that have a minimum cost to implement: downsizing offices, working from home, movement out of expensive cities and back into suburbs, and offices retrofitted with cheap solutions like hand sanitizer dispensers, plexiglass dividers, and spaced out desks. Things that require a huge investment like copper surfaces, plant dividers, fewer people per square meter, simply won&#x27;t be worth it when the alternative is not to invest in office space at all.
legulere将近 5 年前
&gt; It also reduces the humidity to help prevent germs multiplying<p>Too low humidity is also bad: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;cdn.shopify.com&#x2F;s&#x2F;files&#x2F;1&#x2F;0266&#x2F;9493&#x2F;files&#x2F;Humidity-Health-Floors.jpg?370" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;cdn.shopify.com&#x2F;s&#x2F;files&#x2F;1&#x2F;0266&#x2F;9493&#x2F;files&#x2F;Humidity-H...</a>
kingkawn将近 5 年前
The antimicrobial obsession on full view here is recognized as being the cause of maladaptive immune development<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.nytimes.com&#x2F;2019&#x2F;03&#x2F;12&#x2F;health&#x2F;immune-system-allergies.html" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.nytimes.com&#x2F;2019&#x2F;03&#x2F;12&#x2F;health&#x2F;immune-system-alle...</a>
zachware将近 5 年前
This is honestly the most ridiculous article&#x2F;amazing visual journalism possible.<p>Bear with me here....This article assumes that we either a) have no path around COVID-19 via a vaccine and&#x2F;or b) we spend five years failing to follow the data on infection morbidity risk as high for those with established co-morbitities or old age and&#x2F;or c) that even if we succeed at a and&#x2F;or b that future pathogens are detected by body temp or mitigated by hand washing.<p>And even if I&#x27;m completely wrong about all of the above, this article relies on zero empirical data to predict 2025.<p>This is a sign of our media times. It&#x27;s a movie script, not journalism. And each click and scroll reinforces to the creators that they should create more of this empirically hollow print.
mattlondon将近 5 年前
Hmm.<p>I think as soon as we get a vaccine, or even just a test that will tell you if you will end up in ICU or not, 95% of people will head back to the office.<p>Even among the people who at first found WFH a huge productivity gain, I&#x27;ve noticed a recent trend of people fatiguing of it. The initial boon to concentration (assuming you have a quiet home which not everyone does) and not having to commute etc was great, but it seems like for a lot of people it is starting to wear a bit thin now.<p>Pre-lockdown I used to work from home quite frequently and would happily put up with video calls, but I am growing to hate WFH now. Video meetings are increasingly grating due to their latency and people&#x27;s patchy wifi. Ad-hoc informal collaboration&#x2F;chats are down to zero - everything now has to be formally scheduled and arranged vs when you&#x27;d just bump into someone in the corridor&#x2F;getting coffee etc. Getting a feel for what the team is working on is hard, even with regular stand-ups etc there is no &quot;overhearing&quot; people talking about stuff around you.<p>Personally I do not have the space for a dedicated office set up where I live - I have a desk in the corner of my living room which is the same room that the rest of my family use while I am trying to work. I <i></i>do not<i></i> like the idea that I will have that there forever now - if my job wants me to work from my house forever, they can increase my salary 200% so I can stand a chance of buying somewhere in&#x2F;around London with space for an office.<p>As soon as we have a vaccine, or a test to know if I will end up in ICU vs being asymptomatic, or there is just some pill you can take if you test positive that means you get a bad fever and not a near-death coma etc, I will be right back there in the office a usual no questions asked.
cameldrv将近 5 年前
The article asserts that a bunch of things will change in the future, but it doesn&#x27;t say why. We&#x27;ll live in more expensive houses, further from work, renovate all of our offices and homes, and change all of our daily and weekly routines, because of a virus that everyone is vaccinated against?
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cpr将近 5 年前
More fear porn from the Beeb. Please don’t post this noise on HN.
peterwwillis将近 5 年前
&gt; Laila makes a coffee in the kitchen area<p>Seriously? You&#x27;re worried about viruses and yet you&#x27;re still gonna allow the &quot;coffee petri dish,&quot; where hundreds of grubby dirty hands fondle communal cups, bowls, coffee machine buttons, creamer, sugar, stirrers? To say nothing of the giant &quot;catered lunch&quot; buffets with no sneeze guards.<p>&gt; The air conditioning system uses UV light to kill pathogens. It also reduces the humidity to help prevent germs multiplying, responding to a stream of data from sensors fixed around the building, and wearable sensors used by staff.<p>Yet it&#x27;s still got 50-year-old unmaintained fiberglass insulation inside the ducts, which, because the overlayment breaks down over time, streams tiny particles of glass throughout the office to be inhaled. (this has probably been happening in your office for some time if it&#x27;s an older building)<p>&gt; The staff got fed up with plastic everywhere a couple of years ago. They said it made the office feel like a hospital. Laila prefers the plants.<p>The plants are plastic now. Too many finicky potential problems like mold&#x2F;mildew, they&#x27;re hard to clean, not maintenance-free.<p>&gt; It&#x27;s face-to-face with colleagues - but all at a safe distance.<p>We don&#x27;t even practice social distancing <i>now</i>. It&#x27;s not gonna happen at work with people who feel comfortable around each other. And honestly, what&#x27;s the point indoors? You cough and the overhead A&#x2F;C pushes microscopic water particles way farther than 6 feet.<p>&gt; It&#x27;s 16:00 and time to go home. Laila moved to the suburbs with a friend after the lockdown in 2020. It&#x27;s a longer commute, but she doesn&#x27;t mind as it&#x27;s only once a week.<p>There a lot of roommates in the suburbs? Most middle-class young people working in offices like this will still need several roommates to afford rent, what with cost of living constantly increasing but pay not adjusting as much (news flash: covid-19 has not fixed income inequality). The suburbs aren&#x27;t actually much cheaper in most parts, because people who work in cities live in them. People will continue to live in cities because there&#x27;s still more access to everything in them.<p>&gt; she knew she would need a home office [..] There&#x27;s a new standing desk, a properly adjustable office chair and storage for documents<p>I work from home now and I don&#x27;t need a home office. All you need is a table and a chair in a corner of a room. With kids, I get it, but otherwise, what&#x27;s all that extra space going toward? Every &quot;document&quot; I own fits in a single box. If anything, apartments will just become &quot;Tokyo-ified&quot;.<p>&gt; She never realised, before, how important it was to have good lighting, so she had spotlights installed in the ceiling and bought a proper desk lamp.<p>Ok, now you&#x27;re jumping the shark. Nobody&#x27;s installing track lighting just to do computer work. One good desk lamp is all you need.<p>&gt; She&#x27;s near a big road and she needs to concentrate hard when she&#x27;s working - sound-proofing is an issue she hadn&#x27;t anticipated.<p>Headphones worked for the office, they work at home too.
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ericmcer将近 5 年前
This seems insanely over engineered, we are in the midst of the pandemic and people are already acting like it’s over. I think things start going back to normal the second corona runs it’s course or a vaccine appears.<p>I live in the Bay Area and was initially planning on joining the droves of people going fully remote. On second thought I am going to stay, I would rather have the bargaining chip of being one of the remaining local devs instead of one of the growing army of fully remote programmers.
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