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Chrome Web Store payments deprecation

270 点作者 hibiscus4156超过 4 年前

31 条评论

gnicholas超过 4 年前
This is super annoying. I have two extensions, one which we&#x27;ve offered on Chrome and Firefox for years, and which uses Stripe for payments. The other we only offered on Chrome and was paid through the Chrome Store. Thinking of all the work we&#x27;ll have to do to manage accounts&#x2F;payments&#x2F;etc on the PDF extension almost makes me want to scrap the whole thing.<p>Most frustrating is the migration. We have been live in the Chrome Store for 7 years, with varying prices. When someone subscribes, they are grandfathered at that price forever. But when we create our own payment system, how do we know what price someone was previously paying? We can either make our new customers really happy by charging all grandfathered users the lowest price we ever charged, or we can upset a bunch of our older customers by charging everyone the current price (which is 5x the former).<p>One fair way to accommodate everyone is charge the high price but if someone forwards us their receipt from the Chrome Store showing a different price, we apply a perpetual coupon to their account. But that will be super labor-intensive (and is susceptible to manipulation&#x2F;abuse).
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Lammy超过 4 年前
Google should start announcing a month&#x27;s worth of deprecations at a time to make it easier on us, like how Microsoft had to start doing Patch Tuesday during the Blaster&#x2F;CodeRed era: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.cnet.com&#x2F;news&#x2F;microsoft-details-new-security-plan&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.cnet.com&#x2F;news&#x2F;microsoft-details-new-security-pla...</a>
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_qulr超过 4 年前
&quot;There is no way to bulk export your existing user licenses, so you need to have your users help with this part of the migration.&quot;
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rswail超过 4 年前
&quot;There is no way to bulk export your existing user licenses, so you need to have your users help with this part of the migration.&quot;<p>I don&#x27;t mind that Google has decided to stop running a payment&#x2F;subscription&#x2F;licensing service for web extensions. Even though it&#x27;s basically just an API to their services that run the Android Play Store (or should be).<p>But to not provide a way to export the information is pathetic.
exikyut超过 4 年前
This part is mildly technically amusing (to me, at least):<p>&gt; Exporting user licenses<p>&gt; - <i>Migrate to another payments processor</i><p>&gt; - <i>Migrate your licensing tracking</i><p>&gt; ...<p>&gt; ... You’ll need to use OAuth 2.0 with your users&#x27; consent ... . The general sequence is:<p>&gt; 1. <i>Implement your replacement payment&#x2F;licensing scheme.</i><p>&gt; 2. ...<p>When I got to (1) I couldn&#x27;t help but feel like whoever&#x27;s tasked with dealing with this is going to feel like they&#x27;ve just been asked to go from zero to &quot;now draw the rest of the owl&quot; without even a line sketch to springboard off of.<p>The bullet points before that are kind of similar as well.
stickfigure超过 4 年前
The interesting thing here is that a commercial marketplace for browser extensions failed. That seems surprising - surely a marketplace for extensions to the most popular browser on the planet could bring in some revenue?!<p>Is it just that nobody paid for things? Presumably they&#x27;re going to keep running the chrome web store, so isn&#x27;t a cut of paymens &quot;free money&quot; to them? Is there some big cost to this I&#x27;m not seeing, maybe too much fraud?<p>I understand shutting down expensive products. It&#x27;s weird keeping the expensive product running and shutting off the revenue model, no?
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bjornstar超过 4 年前
Are they still going to call it a &quot;Store&quot; when you can&#x27;t buy anything on it?<p>I always thought it was weird that my free extensions were distributed by a store. Expect Google to launch a new service with the same functionality and then deprecate the Chrome Web Store.
stefan_超过 4 年前
I love that this &quot;deprecation timeline&quot; includes March 27 where this forgotten about payment API randomly broke.
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seanwilson超过 4 年前
I think people are missing that you can still charge for extension, just not with Google&#x27;s payment system. Anyway, called this well over a year ago - whenever anyone asked for tips on how to integrate Chrome payments into their extension I would strongly recommend against it.<p>If you read the Chrome extension developers forums, you would have seen frequent posts about the payment system breaking, plus it was lacking lots of features like discount codes, letting you change subscription prices, being able to share purchases with Firefox (I wouldn&#x27;t expect this from Google but it&#x27;s a big negative) and letting you export user emails. It was clear Google wasn&#x27;t interested in supporting the payments feature for a while. They&#x27;ve let it sit broken since the COVID lockdowns started which is completely insane (with unfortunate developers in the forums asking when it&#x27;ll be fixed so they can integrate payments as if they think it&#x27;s a one-off).<p>For what it&#x27;s worth, I use Paddle + Firebase for a website SEO auditor extension I run (<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.checkbot.io&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.checkbot.io&#x2F;</a>) and it works well, where Paddle addresses all of the downsides above.<p>If anyone wants any tips on setting up something similar, feel free to message me. I know a lot of people recommend Stripe, but Paddle takes care of country specific tax and VAT for you which is a big plus for reduced admin.<p>My extension was originally meant to be a Chrome App but they deprecated those before I launched haha.
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Gehinnn超过 4 年前
This sucks. I paid $25 for my play console account to monetize my extension two days ago - just to find out they deprecate web store payments entirely.
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moron4hire超过 4 年前
I feel like we are getting nearly weekly examples of &quot;the platform store will eventually kill your business&quot;. These platform stores wouldn&#x27;t be anywhere without independent developers building the software to sell in then, and these big companies just shit on them.
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jfoster超过 4 年前
From the email: &quot;When we launched the Chrome Web Store 11 years ago, there weren&#x27;t a lot of ways for our developers to take payment from users. Today, there is a thriving ecosystem of payment providers offering a far more diverse set of features than a single provider could hope to. Now that our developers have so many great options to choose from, we can comfortably sunset our own payments integration.&quot;<p>My takeaway: Google products &amp; services exist to fill a gap until there&#x27;s sufficient other options. As options increase, expect Google to &quot;comfortably sunset&quot; their solutions.
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simon_weber超过 4 年前
Haha, this is so ridiculous and completely on-brand for Google at this point. I&#x27;ve run a Google Music extension for a few years now and would have absolutely no migration path since I don&#x27;t have a backend -- but it doesn&#x27;t matter since they&#x27;re shutting down Google Music anyway!<p>A related fun fact: accounting data exports for extensions have been broken for me (and I think all extension merchants?) since April 2018. I had to get the NY attorney general to write them a letter before they would actually respond to my support requests so that I could properly file my taxes: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=20588493" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=20588493</a>. I&#x27;m sure that will be fun this year!
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dzej_bi超过 4 年前
I make a living by selling Chrome Extension. This one: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;chrome.google.com&#x2F;webstore&#x2F;detail&#x2F;tradingview-alerts-to-mt4&#x2F;pimpnnlpinhammfhgkfbmdohlijbhmpe" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;chrome.google.com&#x2F;webstore&#x2F;detail&#x2F;tradingview-alerts...</a><p>And I&#x27;m pissed.
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levosmetalo超过 4 年前
Don&#x27;t. Just don&#x27;t. Ever. Rely. On Google. For Anything.
mrkramer超过 4 年前
Who says Google is destroying competition, they encourage competition by closing down their own stuff people love and use.
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jfrunyon超过 4 年前
This is a VERY quick deprecation period... wow. And I wonder how many people have developed something during Covid, in anticipation of Google turning back on &quot;new paid items&quot;, and now can never use that effort.<p>Moreover, it sounds like they&#x27;re saying there will be no solution for having the user purchase an app prior to downloading the app - all purchase flows will have to be in-app? This sounds like it will make for terrible UX, with apps not disclosing (or people not noticing) that they have no free features until after you&#x27;ve downloaded them....
karmasimida超过 4 年前
Google Deprecation is the only Google service out lives Google Search.
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atum47超过 4 年前
Yep. I remember paying for the license to publish a joke extension I&#x27;ve made for chrome. Now I won&#x27;t be able to make my money back, haha.<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;chrome.google.com&#x2F;webstore&#x2F;detail&#x2F;crosstext&#x2F;gnlobfhfakoiohcijojeffhonjpbmole" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;chrome.google.com&#x2F;webstore&#x2F;detail&#x2F;crosstext&#x2F;gnlobfhf...</a>
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londons_explore超过 4 年前
Google sent an email to all Chrome Web Store app developers about this... Despite only a tiny fraction having ever used the payment system.<p>Was that just carelessness? Why not only notify users of the feature you are about to deprecate? Do they not have records of which app developers have used the payments API?
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PascLeRasc超过 4 年前
How weird, I was just thinking about this today. I&#x27;ve had an optional &quot;Buy for $0.99&quot; button next to the three Chrome extensions I made back in 2016. It&#x27;s brought in around $1.50 per month from the US, Australia, Japan, Russia, Ireland, South Africa, a ton of different countries. I&#x27;m not sure why people have been buying it but it always made me feel good to see that some little thing I made was liked by someone incredibly far away.
SahAssar超过 4 年前
Am I understanding it correctly that products paid for will stop working at the undecided &quot;some future time&quot;? And at that point there will be no official way to keep those extensions&#x2F;apps working even if both the dev and the user wants to?
cblconfederate超过 4 年前
go with apple, get App store serfdom. Go with google, you get smoother sailing until one day they cancel the sea. Moral of the story is dont build long term on these platforms. Use them as an onramp and get out. The web is still our most open precious platform. TBL never banned anyone
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single_source超过 4 年前
Just my luck...<p>I created my extension and started monetizing it March of this year...
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shaneapen超过 4 年前
Just as expected! Does anyone know any good alternatives to handle payments and licensing, preferably something which doesn&#x27;t require any upfront fee? Currently I&#x27;m using Gumroad for an extension I run (<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;codegena.com&#x2F;WAXP" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;codegena.com&#x2F;WAXP</a>) but would love to know other options.
lazyant超过 4 年前
Confirming over and over: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;medium.com&#x2F;@steve.yegge&#x2F;dear-google-cloud-your-deprecation-policy-is-killing-you-ee7525dc05dc" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;medium.com&#x2F;@steve.yegge&#x2F;dear-google-cloud-your-depre...</a>
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hkt超过 4 年前
It&#x27;s a real shame they didn&#x27;t offer to parcel this off into a company in its own right that could be owned and managed by its users, as a stay of execution. I&#x27;m sure some would prefer that.<p>The deprecation route Google takes destroy enormous amounts of value.
jccooper超过 4 年前
I remember when I had Google Checkout as my only payment platform. My condolences to all the developers who will now be blowing 1-3 weeks just to get back where they were.
nailer超过 4 年前
Does the Edge store still allow paid extensions?
jhoechtl超过 4 年前
Somehow I have feeling google is loosing ground. Are there any figures which can support my assumption?
neximo64超过 4 年前
Google is so protective about Chrome and Search they&#x27;re scared about getting drawn into an Apple like Epic problem with antitrust consequences.
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