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Ask HN: How to find “senior” jack of all trades jobs?

193 点作者 stevenhubertron超过 4 年前
I have been in my current role for about 6 years. While I wasn't hired for it specifically, my average week has my time split between product management, managing a small team to develop those products, ux design, and front-end JS/Python development. It's really a roll where I am all over the place and I do really enjoy it. However, due to the Covid reality in the world right now I am starting to think my time here is up. How can I find another job that isn't specialized to one specific roll as I really do enjoy being a jack of all trades master of none and would like to continue to do that in my next role. I'm also fairly experienced with 16 years of "jack of all trade" type positions.

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chadcmulligan超过 4 年前
Most jack of all trades jobs are at small companies in my experience, I&#x27;ve found most small places advertise themselves, not through agencies, so you can get a jack of all trades job there. They don&#x27;t pay as well though, it&#x27;s the trade off imho, interesting work that keeps you busy, or specialise and become a corporate consultant - lots of money but boring af.<p>Other alternatives:<p>- move into management<p>- found your own company - your jack of all trades skills will then be pressed<p>- you could also start a side project and put your energy into that, hopefully it will develop into your own company.<p>- write a book in something (edit: there&#x27;s the international consultant route for this to I suppose, become a super specialist in one thing and run around talking about it)<p>- edit: Sales &#x2F; evangelist etc
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mynegation超过 4 年前
I am in a similar boat and it is exhausting. It is very hard to manage people effectively and do individual contributor level work at the same time. Many people I know after a short stint in management returned to IC work and that is fine and respectable choice.<p>If you do stay in management, get your priorities straight. You do need to be the jack of many trades but these are probably not the trades you are thinking of.<p>Your first and foremost priority is building the right team. Hiring right people, giving autonomy and sense of purpose to the team members. You want people that are smart but even more importantly you want people that get things done with little or no supervision.<p>Having said that your second most important priority is to get people unstuck. Be it your gravitas in organization, making the right introduction, or sharing a critical piece of knowledge - check in with your team regularly and actively ask if there are stumbling blocks or blockers. Many people are good in asking for help but there are many for whom it is hard.<p>I could go on but the point is that the trades you want to master in management are more like: communication, courage to delegate, empathy, accountability, being able to make decisions on imperfect information and deal with whatever consequences come up, etc.<p>EDIT: if you are leaning more towards individual contributor role, you will probably either find startups more interesting OR - if you looking for seniority - find an organization that has parallel ladders for management and individual contributors. Those companies will have positions that are worded “staff engineer” or “principal engineer” and tend to be on a larger side.
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quickthrower2超过 4 年前
I find that most jobs for small companies are unspecialised Jack of all trades. The smaller the dev team, the more you will be pitching in with product design and dev ops etc. I&#x27;m not sure how you can filter for such jobs, given that job descriptions are always vague - but maybe for each job description see if you can find out the company and then research if they are a small startup for small business, or a large company with a culture of small teams that do everything for themselves for one product (rather than a team for architecture, a team for python, a front end team etc..)
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snickell超过 4 年前
I&#x27;m in the same boat, inside any given org I can tangibly feel that &quot;jack of all trades&quot; is in huge demand... and I find myself working long hours due to internal demand for this role inside companies.<p>Like you, in my 20 years doing this type of role (wearing a large variety of different title hats) I&#x27;ve never been HIRED to the role. This feels odd, given playing the role always keeps me in high demand internally to organizations.... so if its something organizations crave internally, why don&#x27;t they hire for it?<p>When eng&#x2F;prod&#x2F;ux &quot;broke up&quot; and became separate job roles in the post-Google and post-MS world, I found it &#x2F;very&#x2F; frustrating, because I&#x27;d rather straddle all of these objectives. Additionally, I find many companies fail around these seams, because its hard to pragmatically find the optimal solution in the broad eng&#x2F;prod&#x2F;ux tradeoff space when you have the &quot;deep knowledge trees&quot; spread across many heads, with the limited bandwidth that entails.<p>When I started taking senior eng management positions, I naturally thought I would change this, and explicitly hire some &quot;jack of all trades&quot; folks. I was surprised by how hard this is to do, harder even (for me) to evaluate than specialist knowledge, was distinguishing pragmatic and effective &quot;jack of all trades&quot; types from, well, bullshitters. This is funny, because the really effective &quot;jack of all trades&quot; I&#x27;ve observed are in many ways the farthest from BSers possible, they&#x27;re usually so broadly knowledgable partly because they are so voraciously pragmatic that they end up learning a lot of different things. But from the outside, I wasn&#x27;t personally successful in confidently distinguishing people in an interview context.<p>The problem is there&#x27;s a similar appearing archetype to &quot;jack of all trades&quot; the &quot;always reading never doing&quot; person. Conversationally, they can appear similar. And I found (and find myself) that its hard to test jacks-of-all-trades because they often don&#x27;t keep knowledge at their fingertips, part of their skill is fast learning. But even if they spent serious time using a technology, they still need 4 hrs of work in it to look surface competent again (I think because they&#x27;re constantly swapping knowledge in and out, vs a deep knowledge person who have practiced the same patterns over and over and over).<p>So my limited experience as a &quot;jack of all trader&quot; was: 1. Yes, companies seem to get a LOT of benefit from really good people with broad skillsets. 2. But I personally don&#x27;t know how to select the good ones in hiring. I suspect other people have found good ways, I&#x27;d be curious to hear about them :-)
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caymanjim超过 4 年前
Consider consulting. I like the variety of roles, and changing clients periodically keeps things fresh and exposes me to a lot of technology. I prefer working for a company so I don&#x27;t have to find my own clients, and get benefits and a steady paycheck. If you can manage your own network, you can potentially earn more, but it&#x27;s a lot of work finding a steady stream of clients on your own.
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filmgirlcw超过 4 年前
I’m in a senior “jack of all trades” role at a big co. and it wasn’t something I was hired into — though I sold my agility&#x2F;ability to absorb information and context switch in my interview — but it was something I just sort of naturally created for myself.<p>For the kind of work I do, being a jack of all trades&#x2F;generalist is actually VERY valuable and I would like to think my team sees that value. But it’s definitely difficult to explain to people who don’t know me who see all my peers who have specific technologies focus areas, and then I’m the chick who knows a lot about a lot of things, has seen a lot, but obviously isn’t going to be as strong as someone who has spent years focusing on one area.<p>I might be off-base here, but I often think of people who are jack of all trades types as ideal connectors. Or, at least I am. I can connect the right people&#x2F;teams together and can often identify problems&#x2F;solutions by asking the right kinds of questions that can help a specialist hone in on something.<p>That connector&#x2F;conduit piece is something incredibly beneficial at a large company, when the product engineering teams, the UX teams, the marketing teams, and the sales teams aren’t always in sync (particularly if something is cross product or cross organization). By being familiar with so many different people&#x2F;roles and being good at identifying where there are opportunities to work together, that’s been a good fit for me, as I get to work on lots of different things and once and spend time with lots of different teams.<p>That said, I do echo what others have suggested, which is to go for a specialized type of role and then either express your strengths for cross-org work or agility in the interview or try to carve out the role once you’re in the job. A good generalist is typically identified early on and in my experience, we get slotted into that role by others, often without trying.<p>The more difficult thing, I’ve found, is getting promoted. I’m close to making principal and I would have already been promoted if I was focused on <i>one</i> area. That’s frustrating, because obviously I can do that, but doing that offers less value to the company. But I want to get promoted, so I’m working out how to play that game, while also still being a jack of all trades, even if my title is more focused&#x2F;specific.
yobert超过 4 年前
I&#x27;ve had really good luck going for what is now called DevOps. You end up working with every team, doing all sorts of strange tasks, and building strange glue to make strange systems work together. Any time there is a problem, you&#x27;re involved in the fix. Almost any computer skill you have will be used at some point, at least in my experience.
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stephenboyd超过 4 年前
The keyword you&#x27;re looking for is &quot;cross-functional&quot;, which is used to describe teams where everyone is expected to be a jack of all trades. I&#x27;m on a team like that and my responsibilities range from system architecture, UX design, programming at all levels, infrastructure, etc. It&#x27;s been great for me since I enjoy the variety and my team can generally cover anything for me when I want to take time off.<p>Just Google for &quot;cross-functional senior software engineer&quot; and you&#x27;ll see a lot of listings that fit what you&#x27;re looking for, including the high-paying FAANG companies.
tornadron超过 4 年前
If you are strong at product&#x2F;program management, there are more technical versions of those positions at larger techs where being able to code, do some UX design, proof of concept work would be useful (i know people in those types of roles at Apple, Microsoft for example).<p>Or a &quot;Solution Engineer&quot; at an enterprise software&#x2F;services company could be a fit. This is a role where you may not be working on the core platform, but custom solutions for clients built on top of the platform (hence PM, UX type skills are useful). Sometimes this is in service of sales pitches, other times you are actually implementing the solution.<p>I have hired for roles like this in enterprise world, but also even for internal platforms at a FANG, i&#x27;ve setup something similar before.<p>I myself am a sort of jack of all trades for ~20 years now and am a senior engineering manager at a FANG--I&#x27;ve never considered myself to be a particularly strong engineer, but I made up for it in other ways and am technical &quot;enough&quot; to be effective (at least people seem to think so). I&#x27;ve seen others like me be successful (e.g. they are more senior than me now), and some did not even have technical backgrounds, they just &quot;faked it till they made it&quot;, but had a good sense of what was important to focus on and not be distracted by technical ratholes.<p>Like others said, a startup is a good option too--I have been in that type of role in several startups earlier in my career (and have had to hire those types of people before).<p>good luck!
dropalltables超过 4 年前
My $0.02: A). join (or start) a startup. I suspect most would <i>love</i> to have someone like you or B). at a larger organization, join a team that is carved out from the overall org working on a new initiative. Depending on the company, job posts may specifically call out this sort of team.
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ineedasername超过 4 年前
Good solid &quot;jack of all trades&quot; folks, if they want to move up, need to do 1 of 2 things: (there may be others, these are the ones that jump out at me)<p>1) Specialize in at least one thing. This will make you an expert in one thing, while still being the person everyone goes to for other things as well. This will help advance to senior developer.<p>2) If you have a good grasp of the logistics of how pieces of a project fit together &amp; the coordination necessary, another clear path to a more senior role is team lead where you do PM &amp; part-time development. If you want to go higher than that, you&#x27;re looking at high level project or product management. Actual development work will be minimal, but again with a jack of all trades background you will still provide valuable insight &amp; guidance to those performing development work. And you can always look for extra opportunities to get your hands dirty back in to coding here &amp; there.
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kirillzubovsky超过 4 年前
This isn&#x27;t going to answer your question directly, but as a generalist myself this just hit me, and I think it&#x27;s valuable.<p>In my experience, many &quot;experts&quot; in specific programming areas have either gathered sufficient prior knowledge to know the right answer, or more likely have enough prior experience to know where and how to quickly find that answer. That&#x27;s what makes them the experts.<p>In much the same way, generalists are quick learners, and your expertise is in knowing how to quickly learn anything so you could find the answers. You are quite literally the expert in becoming the expert.<p>You might start at 0% knowledge, but you can also get to 80% relatively quickly, at which point you too can function on a near-expert level, at least for a while in a narrow enough scope.<p>Understanding that, if true, will help you find the jobs that need this ability, even if they don&#x27;t know it yet.<p>ps. Let us know how it goes. Would love to learn what you learn ;)
codezero超过 4 年前
Coming from a generalist who&#x27;s been at their startup for six years, has roughly 20 years of generalist experience, and is entering a new growth phase: pick a focus for now, get really good at it and leverage that. Your generalist skills won&#x27;t go away, and your focus will be rewarded.<p>Also find a really good, experienced manager&#x2F;leader who can help coach you into that phase. I&#x27;ve found it&#x27;s very hard for generalists to self-motivate when focusing on a specific and narrow development, and a good coach helps.<p>If you want to stay a generalist, that&#x27;s great, go join small startups and bring your experience to them, help them grow and then move on to the next. Early stage startups crave experienced generalists and you can ride that for a long time.
jabroni_salad超过 4 年前
In the support area, generalists can be very popular. Lots of people will just bounce issues that sound even slightly outside of their wheelhouse; being the guy who takes on cases and owns them no matter where they go will win you a lot of friends very quickly.<p>I don&#x27;t have the lofty &quot;Sr&quot; in my title but I have a special designation as the &quot;edge case SME&quot; in the list of experts. I also do big crisis management which is pretty fun. Not a dev, so take it as you will.
mindhash超过 4 年前
I have been on similar boat. I realized my skillet is desirable to founders who ain&#x27;t able to expand product lines or build new products. So I work mainly on contracts and get my leads through network or through linked in. The first thing if you want to do this is to start writing blogs that showcase your experience.<p>I also avoid working with really early stage founders as my rates are high.<p>Write content that will attract founders.<p>Good luck
banuguler超过 4 年前
If you want to be at a funded startup, try to backchannel rather than finding a public posting. Find a larger company you think is interesting, then figure out who invested in them in the early days. Find early founders&#x2F;employees who&#x27;ve since moved on. Find out what those people are investing in or working on now.
pianoben超过 4 年前
This has basically been my role for the past decade, minus management. In that time I&#x27;ve worked at tiny startups, hypergrowth unicorns, and the biggest tech comapnies. In no case have I <i>ever</i> been hired as a jack-of-all-trades fixer. In every case I was hired because of my specialty (mobile development), and ended up just &quot;making myself useful&quot;.<p>In my experience, job titles, levels, and even team membership are more &quot;guidelines&quot; than rules, and are often trailing indicators of what and how you&#x27;re actually doing. I wouldn&#x27;t worry about finding the perfect opening - just find a team you like and a manager who seems to get it.
lxe超过 4 年前
Founding engineer, employee #2, etc... The bigger the company, the harder this will be.
oWIJRwlirj超过 4 年前
I&#x27;m in the same boat and there aren&#x27;t many. Startup founder or first-wave employee is the most likely option. I&#x27;ve done that several times. The larger the company, the more cookie-cutter the roles and titles.<p>Another option is to find a cookie-cutter role that fits your interests. For me that means &quot;embedded software engineer&quot;, where all of my experience is relevant. I&#x27;m definitely all-tech and no-management now though.<p>Yet another option is consulting&#x2F;contracting&#x2F;freelancing. You need a good network for that. I haven&#x27;t done this. Preparing to potentially do it in a few years after I have a larger nest egg.
jacktradesthrow超过 4 年前
kinda stating the obvious but it&#x27;s hard to find a jack of all trades role because typically, if you need to hire for three roles, you look for three distinct individuals.<p>if you&#x27;re looking for the rare individual who transcends categorization, you don&#x27;t do it through job ads or an HR department. it&#x27;s hard enough to find a person who can do one role well.<p>so, if you&#x27;re a jack of all trades, look for a job fulfilling one of your many possible roles, in a place where you will be able to fulfill the others as well. it sounds like that&#x27;s exactly how you got the job you have.
candiddevmike超过 4 年前
You should figure out what you like to do the most and pursue jobs&#x2F;specialization for that. Wearing multiple hats will eventually burn you out, regardless of how much you enjoy it now.
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dagmx超过 4 年前
If you&#x27;re ever open to it, games and film have Technical Artist and Technical Director roles which are effectively asking someone to be a jack of all trades within that domain space
noufalibrahim超过 4 年前
My general experience has been that seniority almost implies specialisation. A good compromise is to be super skilled at one (or a few) tasks and have working knowledge of others. The former makes for a good resume and will get you hired. The latter will help you grow at the organisation you join.<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;jtauber.com&#x2F;journeyman_of_some&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;jtauber.com&#x2F;journeyman_of_some&#x2F;</a> is a particularly eloquent way of putting it.
adambware超过 4 年前
I’ve got slightly less experience and just moved to Product Management because it seemed like a blend of all of my flavors of knowledge. The PM Role is also helping me gain more knowledge to one day run my own company.<p>If you’re looking to be more hands-on with the engineering, I’d recommend management. Engineering Manager seems like the best fit given your description.
jamil7超过 4 年前
I have a similar skillset to you and have worked on nearly everything at some point in small companies and startups. I love being a generalist and designing whole systems or other times working on one small part. I ended up freelancing and couldn’t be happier, if you can ease into getting some steady clients it might also work for you.
gedy超过 4 年前
If you are okay with a single title, I&#x27;ve found that having a mix of skills like this helps in a lot of roles. PMs, UX, tech lead, front end devs, etc. If you stick with SMBs you won&#x27;t be pigeon holed too much and many places will appreciate the breadth. Big companies, not so much...
neltnerb超过 4 年前
Yeah, small company where they don&#x27;t have the head count to specialize heavily yet, but that almost automatically means they also don&#x27;t have the headcount to have a reasonable HR department so you&#x27;ll probably have to work harder to find them.
lallysingh超过 4 年前
Startup CTO?
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tohs19超过 4 年前
In my opinion, that’s a CEO, COO, CCO, or business advisor&#x2F;development&#x2F;consultant.<p>Likely to look a multinational corporations or groups dabbling in many things. Everyone naturally will be wearing many “hats” and they will look out for that.
zorked超过 4 年前
The &quot;jack of all trades&quot; in many companies may go by the name &quot;System Engineer&quot;.<p>If you are a jack of all trades that wants to be involved in management, the job title to pursue is Technical Program Manager.
gravypod超过 4 年前
Post your email here and wait for people to reach out to you. I&#x27;d send you something tomorrow for a position at the company I&#x27;m working for right now. I&#x27;m sure I&#x27;m not the only one.
tru3_power超过 4 年前
If you’re into security look into a Security Engineer role on a product security team. To be good in this role you’ll need all those skills you listed+software security domain knowledge.
internet_hugs超过 4 年前
LaunchNotes is hiring right now and we are looking for folks like yourself. If you’d like to chat, shoot me an email and we can get some time scheduled. tyler@launchnotes.io
didgeoridoo超过 4 年前
Look for the term “creative technologist”. It’s a relatively rare role, but seems to match what you’re looking for.
atdrummond超过 4 年前
Sounds like the type of person we’re interested in. Mind shooting me an email at alex@gatepay.co?
bussetta超过 4 年前
If you do want to work for a big Corp, ladders like Solutions Engineer will be a good fit.
sngz超过 4 年前
getting past interviews that focus on very specific things is going to be the hard part. Every one wants a jack of all trades but they really want a master of everything for the salary of 1 person.
hexbinencoded超过 4 年前
SRE or manager thereof.<p>Consulting.
dangoljames超过 4 年前
s&#x2F;roll&#x2F;role
sam1r超过 4 年前
Create a novel concept with uber numbers&#x2F;scale&#x2F;growth from the ground up. With faster rising valuation times. Plot twist. Make it non-profit.
scott31超过 4 年前
You did not have to put senior in quotes, we all know it was sarcastic as &quot;jack of all trade&quot; means 0.1Xer with no expertise on any subject