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Bill Joy: Why the future doesn't need us (2004)

42 点作者 zengr大约 14 年前

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bermanoid大约 14 年前
Here's the problem with the "Let's just agree not to do this research!" plan that everyone seems to suggest when they start thinking about existential risks: when we're sitting around in 2030 with a million times more computing power at our fingertips than we have today, constructing a workable AI just isn't going to be that difficult of an engineering problem. We already know the equations that we'd need to use do general intelligence, it's just that they're not computable with finite computer power, so we'd have to do some approximations, and at present it's not realistic because the approximation schemes we know of would work too slowly. Pump up our computer power a million times and these schemes start to become a lot more realistic, especially with some halfway decent pruning heuristics.<p>It's bad enough that (IMO) by 2040 or so, any reasonably smart asshole in his basement could probably do it on his laptop with access to only the reference materials available <i>today</i>; I have no idea how you avoid that risk by making some political agreement. Hell, ban the research altogether on pain of death, and there's still going to be some terrorist team working on it somewhere (and that's even if all the governments actually stop work on it, which they won't).<p>The only positive way out of this is to go to great pains to figure out how to design safe (friendly) AI, and to do so while it's still too difficult for random-dude-with-a-botnet to achieve (and preferably we should do it before the governments of the world see it as feasible enough to throw military research dollars at). We need to tackle the problem while it's still a difficult software problem, not a brute-force one that can be cracked by better hardware.
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zengr大约 14 年前
Looking for a summary? Read this wiki entry: <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Why_the_future_doesn%27t_need_us" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Why_the_future_doesn%27t_need_u...</a>
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atlei大约 14 年前
Even the most trivial computer programs have lots of bugs (with VERY few exceptions [1]), and we're worrying about creating a super-brain that is actually <i>smarter</i> than we are ourselves ?<p>And let's not forget the debugging, which is TWICE as hard as the coding ;-)<p>We may be able to simulate the hardware of the brain (using "biologic hardware"), but programming the AI software is probably greatly under-estimated....<p>[1] Some of the NASA software is probably as close to bug-free as we get, and check the required amount of planning, documentation and testing compared to the amount of actual code produced - <a href="http://www.fastcompany.com/magazine/06/writestuff.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.fastcompany.com/magazine/06/writestuff.html</a>
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jcfrei大约 14 年前
I think a relative simple solution to this is written in the first paragraphs. We will more or less 'merge' our minds with computers, just to a further extent than we already do now. Nowadays a computer is merely a tool, which helps us keeping in touch with relatives, visualizing ideas, calculating stuff. but this bond will probably become much more intense in the future, where whole subroutines of our thinking will rely on artificial machines. This might only seem like a threat considering our 21st century morality - but I think this will become widely accept in the next century.
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FrojoS大约 14 年前
ATTENTION: Book spoiler below!<p>SF author Vernor Vinge who introduced the term "singularity" tried to come up with an idea to prevent this and other "out of the kids basements" lethal threads to humanity, in his latest book Rainbow End. The "solution" in this book though, is to put all of humanity under mind control.
tybris大约 14 年前
Humanity may be doomed if it keeps innovating, but it's most certainly doomed if it stops.
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