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Why Laugh at Quibi's Failure?

35 点作者 kjcharles超过 4 年前

15 条评论

Traster超过 4 年前
It seems to me quite common in silicon valley (read: Paul Graham) to excuse obvious and continued miscalculations as just &quot;bad bets&quot;. Accoridng to one group of people, we should applaud the bets because some pay off and others don&#x27;t. But it&#x27;s not like all bets are equal. Not all start ups are equal. Some people are doing something unique and innovative, and some people are doing a crap version of something everyone else already tried and failed.<p>As well as this, there&#x27;s a whole load of strategy that is specifically designed by startups to minimize wasting resources - fail fast. Building an enormous platform (for which you&#x27;re being sued) and investing billions before you show it to your customer....well that&#x27;s going to fail fast. But not really want we meant. And not only do you want to fail fast, but a $10m launch doesn&#x27;t need to be that successful, if you&#x27;re launching with billions in investment then you need an absolute home run, and to a large extent that&#x27;s what happened here. The investment was so big that you needed to immediately capture a top 3 spot in the market.<p>I have a lot of respect for someone who can say &quot;Ok, we see other people exist, and here&#x27;s why we&#x27;re different&#x2F;here&#x27;s why we&#x27;ll succeed where they failed&quot;. But that wasn&#x27;t Quibi. Quibi was more &quot;I&#x27;m going to spend $2Bn failing where others failed before&quot;
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seattle_spring超过 4 年前
&gt; Why Laugh at Quibi&#x27;s Failure?<p>I&#x27;m laughing because it was an obviously stupid idea. I first heard about it pre-launch on an NPR spot, where the CEO was interviewed about their proprietary technology that&#x27;d allow videos to be watched in both landscape and, <i>get this</i>, portrait mode. That means all shows had to be filmed with multiple cameras for a feature that no one in the world wanted or asked for. It reminded me of Tommy Wiseau from &quot;The Room&quot; insisting it be filmed in both digital and 35mm [1]. It was an obvious waste-of-money gimmick from the get-go.<p>but I guess according to PG, I&#x27;m &quot;just a hater.&quot; [2]<p>[1] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;The_Room#Development" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;The_Room#Development</a><p>[2] <a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.paulgraham.com&#x2F;fh.html" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.paulgraham.com&#x2F;fh.html</a>
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zild3d超过 4 年前
&gt; Rather than take the approach of a startup to validate their idea they went full steam ahead assuming they knew exactly what people wanted.<p>This is the big one for me. YC more than anyone pushes the idea to launch early, and validate. Raising a huge amount of money is fine, all the power to you, but hiring a ton of people off the bat, building your app in isolation of real users, and pouring gas on the marketing before ever launching is just asking to go out in flames
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jdoliner超过 4 年前
I feel like a lot of people laughing are just expressing the feeling that they could do much more if they were given 1% of the investment Quibi had. It feels unfair when people get opportunities to pursue their startup based on who they are rather than the merits of the company. Of course, that&#x27;s the way life works, you can&#x27;t do anything about it and complaining is a bad look. But when you&#x27;re proven right and the investors get burned for investing in a bad idea based on notable founders what else are you supposed to do but laugh? I generally agree with the sentiment that it&#x27;s bad to ridicule people for failure, startups are hard and risky and ridiculing people for failing discourages people. I think when there&#x27;s this much hubris involved though it&#x27;s a little different.
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sebastien_b超过 4 年前
This list seems to be missing Quibi’s abuse of creators and actors by skirting union rules.
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stonogo超过 4 年前
&quot;Startups are hard.&quot;<p>They&#x27;re even harder when your founders are an arrogant out-of-touch industry insider and a bureaucrat with no passion or insight for the market you depend on. That&#x27;s why people are laughing. A bad idea is survivable. A bad leadership cadre is fatal, and <i>both</i> of them should know that by now.
mikewhy超过 4 年前
Wow what an awful take from PG.
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sbierwagen超过 4 年前
&gt;This is probably the most inexcusable aspect of it all. You raise all that money, hire a bunch of people, and still don&#x27;t at least have a great app. Not being able to share clips. No TV support. Not even screenshot support.<p>They intentionally blocked screenshots and sharing clips, because they were worried about piracy. An error of design, not execution.
jariel超过 4 年前
It was arrogant and wasteful to throw that much money at an unknown quantity. &#x27;Famous&#x27; does not make &#x27;Good&#x27;.<p>$1B could have gone into COVID research or any other good things.<p>&#x27;Risk&#x27; is fine, &#x27;irrational risk&#x27; is wasteful.<p>Whitman and Katzenberg should have known better.
qppo超过 4 年前
I think it more arrogant that the people so established thought they could build a tech company without technical innovation, but that&#x27;s just my opinion. Quibi was more arrogant than bold in their ambition.
vmception超过 4 年前
Because 80% of people unsubscribed after a <i>three month trial</i> on a mobile phone!<p>That is hilarious! The whole business plan is making that difficult and people forgetting and still! ahahaha<p>This onion article writes itself.
moltar超过 4 年前
Will it be remembered as Pets.com of the dot com 2.0 era?
batt4good超过 4 年前
Wow, this &quot;article&quot; could&#x27;ve been condensed down into maybe four sentences?<p>Can we laugh at that?
scott31超过 4 年前
The saddest part about Quibi is that with the $1.75B they raised they could have given every American $1M :(<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;twitter.com&#x2F;zck&#x2F;status&#x2F;1319046278618099712" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;twitter.com&#x2F;zck&#x2F;status&#x2F;1319046278618099712</a>
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aaron695超过 4 年前
If you want any more reasons to think HN is stupid look at they way they think they knew better the whole time about Quibi in this and other threads.<p>I&#x27;d like to see who actually wrote it down and explained why it wouldn&#x27;t work before it failed.<p>Quibi is brilliant. Short form TV will take a huge market share.<p>Quibi failed due to a content issue. This is hard. It takes a lot of money and a long time to pull this off. Pre-existing content is rarer.<p>It&#x27;s possible short form TV will come into play first going through places like Netflix. But if you wanted to own the market this was an ok attempt.<p>And yes forcing people to use phones and having different views was wrong. People want to be on a couch and passively watching TV but next week everyone on HN believes in VR. HN has no idea of the world and IT.
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