Guido van Rossum on PyCharm

One part GvR didn't talk about which is top-notch in PyCharm is jumping around in your source code. The searching of symbols and classes (via a search box) is very well done and generally works quite well, which is extremely handy for big codebases, and the contextual jumps (option-click on a class name) to definitions is quite cool as well.<p>And in usual Jetbrains fashion, it comes with a bunch of refactoring though they tend to show their Java origin (extract method can handle multiple return values, but provides no way to set the order of the return tuple whereas you can reorder parameters)

I won a PyCharm license at PyTexas last year. Before I wond the license I had a bad experience with the beta version. It took almost 9 months using it on and off until I it finally became my IDE of choice.<p>- The Subversion integration is killer.<p>- There is even a tool to apply .diffs.<p>- There is a plugin that gives me VIm key bindings.<p>- The Django integration is nice, including Django templates.<p>- The CSS editor is fantastic. One cool feature is the color referenced in a line is put in the left gutter.<p>- The debugger is very handy.<p>- The quick file navigation bar is a super handy way to jump between files.<p>- The "Go To" for Class , File, and Symbol is a very quicksilver-ish way to navigate your project<p>- As trite as it might sound, the color themes are super easy to change. Which are close to impossible to change with PyDev + Eclipse.<p>- The syntax highlighting helps me catch errors

PyCharm's been the only thing that made me leave Vim for any length of time.<p>It's not about having it all in one place, it's the attention to detail and the little conveniences that are everywhere. Whereas in general purpose editors I'm mostly fine, but eventually stumble on small roadblocks at the edges, with PyCharm every once in a while I stumble on wonderful gems (remote debugging, auto-fixing common issues, etc.)

In case anyone was interested in buying it JetBrains has a sale going on for 2 more days. (April 30)<p><a href="http://www.jetbrains.com/specials/index.jsp?home_banner" rel="nofollow">http://www.jetbrains.com/specials/index.jsp?home_banner</a><p>I ended up buying IntelliJ because the python plugin is virtually the same thing although it does lag behind the Pycharm version a wee bit in terms of features. The other major difference is the way projects are started and the feature to open files from the command line is missing in IntelliJ. If you only use Python Pycharm is definitely a more focused product and doesn't have features from other programming languages hanging out in your face in places like the run configurations.<p>Also according to the license matrix on both IntelliJ and Pycharm the personal versions are both for general commercial use. The difference between the commercial and personal licenses mainly seems to be about who is purchasing the software.<p><a href="http://www.jetbrains.com/pycharm/buy/license-matrix.jsp" rel="nofollow">http://www.jetbrains.com/pycharm/buy/license-matrix.jsp</a>

This is kinda the Anti-Gosling and his "Don't use emacs" spiel. (<a href="http://www.computerworld.com.au/article/207799/don_t_use_emacs_says_java_father/" rel="nofollow">http://www.computerworld.com.au/article/207799/don_t_use_ema...</a>)<p>EDIT: That article is really golden. It starts with the silliness about not using emacs, without any clear reason why other than "not abiding to Moore's Law" (whatever that means), he praises NetBeans (as if) but claims "almost nobody bothers to modify its code because of its complexity", then, to top it off, ComputerWorld refers to him in that (and other) articles as "Father of Java", ignoring the quote at the bottom that says "People call me that because it pisses me off."

Also worth a look is PyDev, the Eclipse Python plug-in.<p><a href="http://pydev.org/" rel="nofollow">http://pydev.org/</a>

Bought a license of PyCharm and I'm having exactly the same experience as Guido: love the debugger, prefer emacs+screen+ssh for everything else.<p>I've heard others python guys saying that they have PyCharm for exploring complex repositories and debug things. The problem with emacs is that it's perfect for coding, but not for exploring.

I use Vim for essentially everything, what I would kill for is if I could integrate a debugger similar to eclipse pydev, PyCharm or Komodo's.<p>PDB is great, but having to manually type and remember to remove breakpoints can be a pain.

PyCharm is awesome. [shameless plug]: if you're using VisualStudio, give <a href="http://pytools.codeplex.com" rel="nofollow">http://pytools.codeplex.com</a> a try... free &#38; open source from msft.

I haven't heard about PyCharm until now. It looks like a great IDE. I think I'm going to download the trial version and see if I want to throw down the $50 for a single user license. Quite cheap and if it's as good as it looks it will be well worth the money.<p>Check out their getting started video: <a href="http://www.jetbrains.com/pycharm/demos/quick_overview/pycharm_getting_started.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.jetbrains.com/pycharm/demos/quick_overview/pychar...</a>

I'm an avid Komodo IDE user after reviewing all options half a decade ago. Anyone with experience in both IDEs can make a quick comparison?

I've read a number of discussions about python editors on stackoverflow and some random blog posts, and netbeans seems to invariably be missing from the discussion. Why is that? I've been using it for the past couple of months and I definitely like it better than Eclipse+PyDev. Am I missing something obvious that's missing relative to these alternatives?

I'm a big fan of RubyMine, also made by the same folks... although it has taken a few versions to really get good.

I'm starting to use wingware wing IDE. And i got wing working with web2py with code completion, etc.<p>Is pycharm for web2py development better than wing ? Since it is focused on web applications it has potential to be better.<p>Thanks.

Wing works the best for me. It is the most "Pythonic IDE" I have come across.

I'm also a huge fan of PyCharm. Has made all Python devving tons more fun (Django + AppEngine is what I do). Can't recommend it enough, and I've tried PyDev &#38; Komodo wanting to like them.

As a Linux user the biggest turn-off thing for me is the horrible font rendering of Swing applications on Linux. This has kept me from using JetBrains products and Netbeans altogether.

How is it at running locally and working with files on a server? Does it find imported files and functions on the server?

Code completion . . . I am so there!