VPN by Google One

78 点作者 xqunix超过 4 年前

39 条评论

ucha超过 4 年前

I understand why no one would want to trust Google and after Snowden's revelations, I don't see why anyone should.But when it comes to the largest VPNs such as ExpressVPN or Nord VPN, it is impossible to tell who is truly behind them. You cannot put a name on physical person in charge which is very worrying. And since the NSA is known to use front companies to spy on people [1], why couldn't they be behind all these other VPNs? At least, we know who runs Google.[1] <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20131016033046/http://www.foreignpolicy.com/articles/2013/10/15/the_nsa_s_new_codebreakers" rel="nofollow">https://web.archive.org/web/20131016033046/http://www.foreig...</a>

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NiceWayToDoIT超过 4 年前

What is next VPN by NSA ? :) "Don't worry we already know everything about you, it is easier this way" :)

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tucif超过 4 年前

From the linked pdf in the footnotes, looks like they are rolling their own network protocol:"At launchtime, the VPN protocol will be a Google proprietary protocol; however, to ensure a high throughput while minimizing battery consumption, we will soon adopt IPsec as the data tunnel protocol due to its native support in Android.We may eventually use other protocols, such as Wireguard, as their native support improves or on platforms where no specific protocols have a specific advantage."

btashton超过 4 年前

I wonder if this is the same VPN technology they have been using with Google Fi for public WiFi access points<a href="https://support.google.com/fi/answer/9040000" rel="nofollow">https://support.google.com/fi/answer/9040000</a>

rvz超过 4 年前

> Coming soon: Increase your online security with the VPN by Google OneTranslation: Coming Soon: Tell us all about yourself and everything you do by signing up to our new service Google One. It comes with a VPN! Trust us, we won't tell!> iOS, Windows, and Mac coming soonIt seems that some think you can fool people all the time with 'services' like this but companies like Google don't ever learn from their own mistakes. [0] [1] Phrases like 'Privacy and security is core to everything we make.' is another snake-oil tagline which is another branded trap. Not falling for this one.[0] <a href="https://techcrunch.com/2019/01/30/apple-bans-facebook-vpn/" rel="nofollow">https://techcrunch.com/2019/01/30/apple-bans-facebook-vpn/</a>[1] <a href="https://techcrunch.com/2019/01/29/facebook-project-atlas/" rel="nofollow">https://techcrunch.com/2019/01/29/facebook-project-atlas/</a>[2] <a href="https://techcrunch.com/2019/01/30/googles-also-peddling-a-data-collector-through-apples-back-door/" rel="nofollow">https://techcrunch.com/2019/01/30/googles-also-peddling-a-da...</a>

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dataflow超过 4 年前

The whitepaper they link to on the bottom might be more interesting: <a href="https://www.gstatic.com/subscriptions/marketing_page/vpn/white_paper_4f995ab5d7c7edc3d3f14f2e0593f790.pdf" rel="nofollow">https://www.gstatic.com/subscriptions/marketing_page/vpn/whi...</a>

yunohn超过 4 年前

> Google will never use the VPN connection to track, log or sell your browsing activityBut Google doesn't need your browsing history via the VPN connection. It only needs you to continue using the same browser you normally do, so that they can do their normal cookie tracking for Ads...

jandrese超过 4 年前

I wonder if you'll be able to sign up for a GMail account using a Google One endpoint?

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Osiris超过 4 年前

What is Google One? Is this the service formally known as Google Apps or some other service? I find it hard to keep track of all their products because they change so much.

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mark_l_watson超过 4 年前

I am not surprised by the level of criticism in the comments here.However, paid Google services may be cancelled but they have terms of service.For example, Google Workplaces (used to be called GSuite) states that they use none of your data for advertising and make privacy claims. I am a relatively new customer and I believe it. On the other hand, there are good alternatives like ProtonMail and FastMail for people who don’t trust Google.I have been paying for both ProtonMail and FastMail for quite a while, but I find my personal workflow better with Google Workplaces: things like automatic email and calendar integration and also Cloud Search that lets me search every digital artifact in my life from one place.What finally convinced me was that both my former employer CapitalOne and also my current employer Olive AI trust Google Workplaces, so why shouldn’t I.

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nabla9超过 4 年前

Since this is service you pay for, and not paid by ads and Google says it will not track, log or sell activity it's probably fine.

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traveler01超过 4 年前

People use VPNs to run away from companies like Google...

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0x008超过 4 年前

Can somebody explain to me what the point of this is? You cannot pirate, since google certainly cooperates with legal entities, you cannot avoid tracking, well, because google.So I am really interested in an answer here: Is there any beneficial use case for this?They say it's security? How is this more secure than regular HTTPS? What do I gain by paying for this?

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ffpip超过 4 年前

Privacy built in... Oh fuck, wrong company

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wooptoo超过 4 年前

> Google will never use the VPN connection to track, log or sell your browsing activity¹I like the honesty here. Oftentimes you learn more about someone's intention by paying attention to the omissions.

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nuker超过 4 年前

Will this one trigger Unknown Device alarms in Gmail as other VPNs do?

sleavey超过 4 年前

Will Google monitor visited sites?

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uluyol超过 4 年前

I wonder how this compares to Cloudflare's WARP product [1].[1] <a href="https://1.1.1.1/" rel="nofollow">https://1.1.1.1/</a>

yamrzou超过 4 年前

At least they are being honest, it's "Increase your online security" instead of "Increase your online privacy" :)

riyakhanna1983超过 4 年前

I'm confused. If the product targets tech savvy customers, does Google not already know its reputation among the group?

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n_io超过 4 年前

This is farcical. I actually thought this was a title from an article off The Onion at first.

jeffbee超过 4 年前

Does this differ in any way from the VPN you get from Google Fi, that launched in 2018?

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chickenpotpie超过 4 年前

I find it strange that they’re tying this VPN to a subscription with drive, gmail, and google photos. Who cares if the VPN logs are anonymizes if I’m using the VPN to upload all my files and send emails to the same account as the VPN?

3guk超过 4 年前

Unless I’m mistaken it just appears to be for Android phones ? I guess I can see some value in it, but will no doubt be heading for the Google graveyard in 18-24months !

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iJohnDoe超过 4 年前

You would have to be a complete idiot to use this. You might as well put a Google Nest camera in your bedroom and let Google and their contractors watch you. Oh, wait.

unknown2374超过 4 年前

What if people use VPNs to avoid being tracked by Google.

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lenitabinol超过 4 年前

I pay $3/month for NordVPN, but many IPs are blocked from making Google searches. I wonder if this will be compatible with Puppeteer/Playwright

ogre_codes超过 4 年前

Even if you assume they do honor their promise to not tie any user accounts to the traffic, this would provide Google valuable traffic data.

dylan604超过 4 年前

A VPN from Google? Awww hell no. I don't even use their DNS. Did they not learn anything from Facebook's VPN fiasco?

powersnail超过 4 年前

Maybe the rising number of VPN providers is concerning to Google, so it decides to become one.It you can't beat them, join them!

ebg13超过 4 年前

> Privacy and security is core to everything we make.Is this Poe's law in action?

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randompwd超过 4 年前

Under the heading Security you can trust, they list:> Google will never use the VPN connection to track, log, or sell your browsing activity¹I can't wait for that term of contract to slyly disappear and be replaced by more confusing and obfuscated terminology in, what, maybe 36-ish months?

ProAm超过 4 年前

Never in a million years would I trust google as my VPN provider.1) No customer support2) it will probably be cancelled in 18 months3) they already spy on me enough with search, android, google keyboard, gmail

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ikeboy超过 4 年前

I trust VPN providers that have been asked in court to provide data and refused because they don't log more than I trust Google not to log here.

staplers超过 4 年前

I wonder how quickly that "we do NOT log" terms and conditions will change after public release.

pcglue超过 4 年前

We wouldn't need this VPN if Google didn't suck up all our information in the first place.

cblconfederate超过 4 年前

aka Surveillance As-A-Service

crispyporkbites超过 4 年前

Is this a some kind of sick, sarcastic joke?

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haecceity超过 4 年前

This is pretty cheap if you don't care about privacy

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