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Secure Phone Series: Device Security

31 点作者 emrehan超过 4 年前

13 条评论

Tepix超过 4 年前
David Micay, the inventor and technical lead of CopperheadOS, left the company after a breakdown in communications with his business partner. He now leads the GrapheneOS project which can be considered the Copperhead OS successor.<p>GrapheneOS is endorsed by Edward Snowden <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;twitter.com&#x2F;Snowden&#x2F;status&#x2F;1175430722733129729?s=09" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;twitter.com&#x2F;Snowden&#x2F;status&#x2F;1175430722733129729?s=09</a>
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JacobiX超过 4 年前
Not a word about Secure Enclave in iPhone, it should be explicitly stated that the discussion is about Android&#x2F;Linux Phones only. Otherwise, the conclusion that the most secure phone on the market today is the Pixel with CopperheadOS is not accurate (in my first read I interpreted it as it is the most secure phone not the most secure Android).
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AngryLasagna超过 4 年前
The new copperhead site reads like a marketing piece. All the tech explanation looks copypasted or typed while on coke John McAfee Style.<p>They state on their site (copperhead) that only 2 months after split with Daniel the rom got updated again. That is not true. I was affected by the split and there was no update that early, while Daniel continued development.<p>My account has been created solely to defend Graphene here btw. But this is my usual nick I use everywhere else. I am a longtime passive reader.<p>The Copperhead site states that they support Zero Touch Provisioning of devices.<p>That involves Google and Vendor infra and as far as I know this cant enable installing custom roms from inside Google roms. I might be wrong there because I didnt dig that deep into MDM provisioning. But enough that it didnt seem anywhere open source friendly.
jmnicolas超过 4 年前
Fwiw the degoogled phone experience is rough: I installed GrapheneOS on my Pixel 4 XL 2 weeks ago (yes I appreciate the irony to have to use a Google phone to ... degoogle your life :)<p>The notifications aren&#x27;t working properly: this morning my alarm didn&#x27;t ring and this evening a reminder didn&#x27;t fire either.<p>The Fdroid store is nice but it lacks a lot of well designed apps.<p>I don&#x27;t have access to my bank app.<p>KeepassDX (password manager) doesn&#x27;t work in the chromium forks available.<p>The AOSP keyboard doesn&#x27;t &quot;learn&quot; and doesn&#x27;t offer suggestions for the next word I might type. I can&#x27;t change the layout. I tried another keyboard from FDroid, it didn&#x27;t even have auto completion.<p>A lot of things aren&#x27;t customizable like the ugly icons (looking at you Bromite! ;)<p>So for the first time my phone isn&#x27;t my enemy but it&#x27;s so limited that I&#x27;m not sure it&#x27;s worth continuing using it.<p>For the first time I&#x27;m thinking going to Apple. I know their privacy stance is mostly marketing but they scare me less than Google. I don&#x27;t know.
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throwaway12757超过 4 年前
If anyone wanted more information about CopperheadOS and how the developer lead and created GrapheneOS.<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;piunikaweb.com&#x2F;2019&#x2F;02&#x2F;05&#x2F;the-demise-of-copperheados-and-rise-of-its-successors&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;piunikaweb.com&#x2F;2019&#x2F;02&#x2F;05&#x2F;the-demise-of-copperheados...</a>
rapsey超过 4 年前
High security hardware&#x2F;software is such an awful market.<p>You get open source fanatics that will cut you down any chance they get. Nothing is ever good enough and god forbid you want to charge money for anything.<p>Most actually don’t know anything and cant distinguish good products from bad. They are just paranoid.<p>People who actually want to buy security products listen to the loud mouth fanatics so nothing can actually get made because the fanatics will ensure that only free is good. The ensure the market is dead.<p>Copperhead tried to make a good run for it. But in the end when you try to tame a fanatic you are going to get hurt.<p>And then there are mediocre-to-bad products that are suspiciously successful and get deals easily. It is like someone powerful makes sure they become widespread.
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green-bottle超过 4 年前
The article makes an argument for why you should consider Pixel series phones that still have official support from the vendor if you are in the market for Android phones.<p>While it may not have been the point of the article it gives no reason why you should consider CopperheadOS.<p>This is my perspective taking the article at face value as a complete layman in Hardware and OS security who cannot provide any critic or judgement on the technical content of the article.
elchin超过 4 年前
A while ago Graphene OS diverged from Coppperhead OS. What are their current differences?
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daneel_w超过 4 年前
It&#x27;s not surprising that Copperhead announces their own Android product as the safest choice out there, with no mention of iOS&#x2F;iPhone.
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judeka超过 4 年前
There&#x27;s honestly so many pseudo points and fallacies here. I took one look at the comment section and it served as incentive to make an account so I could dispell some of the bs.
joemazerino超过 4 年前
Looks like Copperhead supports the pixel 4 and 4a so they are still keeping on.
DarthGhandi超过 4 年前
I&#x27;m a bit confused here, does copperhead still exist?<p>From what I gathered everyone moved on to graphene, including the original architect.<p>I&#x27;ve not seen anyone mention copperheadOS as a modern secure phone in a long time. Not trying to denigrate the post but it&#x27;s somewhat strange to see them appear out of nowhere.<p>Also, on my barely secured, out of date firmware phone, the site doesn&#x27;t work because I block js :&#x2F;<p>Truly long for the day people at least attempt to make fallback no-js sites or at least text only static pages like some 90&#x27;s ftp server for us weirdos who don&#x27;t need nor want interactivity. Last I looked something like 80% of Android and 50% of apple phones were end of life and yet still used.
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BloodyHorses超过 4 年前
Wonderfully well written article. Should display more from these guys.
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