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Stupid mistakes I made while building my first startup

255 点作者 soorajchandran超过 4 年前

21 条评论

onion2k超过 4 年前
&quot;Too much building and not enough selling&quot; is the major mistake in the list. It&#x27;s the reason for my first startup failure too. You need to be generating revenue within a few months of starting. If your product solves a <i>real</i> problem people will pay money for less than the minimum product just to make sure your company survives long enough to build the minimum product.<p>Ultimately, money is the <i>only</i> thing that can keep a startup going. That means either sales and revenue or investment, and getting investment is <i>a lot</i> easier if you have sales and revenue.<p>Eating more healthily, getting more sleep, and doing some exercise are useful for staying focused and selling better, but the number of successful startups whose founders had horribly unhealthy lifestyles yet still managed to sell their product is <i>significantly</i> higher than the number of startups with healthy founders who didn&#x27;t sell anything.
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ignoramous超过 4 年前
OP: Thanks for sharing this. I have a few questions, if I may:<p>&gt; <i>We shipped features at a tremendous pace. But we never talked to enough users to identify if it was something necessary. We assumed things and kept building – in a few months, we had a product which was an engineering marvel – but nobody cared to use.</i><p>I am curious because the YC application needs one to clearly articulate who ones target customers are, what they do today, why is it such a pain, and what one is building to solve that pain-point. And it looks like you folks at Marketfox did have it figured out [0]. It is interesting to me, then, that you&#x27;d cite this as a key mistake. What am I missing?<p>&gt; <i>We were very naive to think that building software is the hardest part of building a startup.</i><p>Well, there&#x27;s a balance here: Both are equally hard. Writing code is less hard if you&#x27;re a software professional and same goes if you&#x27;re a Sales or Marketing professional. You did say you shipped features at a break-neck pace... but usually, for an enterprise SaaS, isn&#x27;t that the bread and butter anyway? I am curious why you&#x27;d consider this a mistake. Not every (SaaS) product is novel anyway, and learning from your competitors is a shortcut to the otherwise long arduous road of defining a category &#x2F; industry &#x2F; market. Assuming that you folks did not build a feature in a vacuum (that is, you&#x27;d have would thought a feature was necessary only after looking at competitors do it better or a paying customer ask for it), was it the case of feature mis-prioritization &#x2F; building too many bespoke features that only one or two customers wanted?<p>[0] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;blog.ycombinator.com&#x2F;yc-w17-launch-lively-scaphold-marketfox-floyd-servx-fibo-and-wifi-dabba&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;blog.ycombinator.com&#x2F;yc-w17-launch-lively-scaphold-m...</a>
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slovette超过 4 年前
Thanks for writing this. Sales is hard because it means you have to face the fact that you’re whole passion project is not yours to control, it’s theirs and always will be. That’s a hard thing to face and, in my opinion, the primary reason why it’s so often ignored.<p>I really appreciate you taking the time to write this down and allowing us to read it. Thanks again.
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forgotmypw17超过 4 年前
I consider this my &quot;Peak Startup&quot; event...<p>I was in a similar situation as author, only in Chicago &#x27;burbs. We were working hard to build our product, and there was free unlimited fizzy sugar water in the kitchen.<p>I drank so many MtDews that when I got back home, to the house we rented where I was living with 3 other startup members, and passed out in bed, I ended up peeing myself in my sleep for the first time as an adult. Worse, it happened again the next night!<p>It didn&#x27;t happen after that, to my knowledge, but I&#x27;ve sworn off both MtDew and doing more than 10 hours per workday since then.<p>It also made me realize that if a startup can&#x27;t make it without taking a huge toll on health and happiness, it&#x27;s not sustainable by definition, and should be modified. There are occasional exceptions, but most of the time this rule stands.
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sontek超过 4 年前
My co-founder just left our company after 4 years because we basically had to pivot and restart with a new product that fit with COVID (we are in the events space).<p>Looking back at everything that lead up to him having to leave, I&#x27;ve come up with the one mistake I regret doing:<p>Splitting up duties.<p>We were technical founders but we decided one of us would handle the business side and one of us would handle the technical side.<p>I think this ended up isolating us rather than having us work together as a team. As we grew I hired account managers, sales, etc and he hired devs. We chose to start a company together but never really worked together.<p>Now 4 years later I&#x27;m working in the backend for the first time. I wish I would&#x27;ve spent more time pair coding with him and discussing architecture together. We worked at 3 other companies together and went to university together and I think we missed our opportunity to truly work together on something <i>WE</i> want to build.
arey_abhishek超过 4 年前
This was a fun read. I was in the same YC batch as you(BicycleAI) and we made some of the same mistakes too.<p>I remember Marketfox really well because I&#x27;ve never seen a team build so many things so quickly! The execution speed was legendary and it made us feel so slow in comparison. :D Good luck with your next startup!
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namenotrequired超过 4 年前
As far as I can tell (never having gone through YC), some of these mistakes are exactly the ones YC spends a lot of time talking about. I&#x27;m curious what caused you to make them anyway. Did YC change, am I wrong, or is it simply a case of practice being harder than theory?<p>How did your office hours go?<p>Thank you for sharing!
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imtringued超过 4 年前
Everyone knows the third hardest part of building a company is making products.<p>Everyone knows the second hardest part is figuring out what products to make.<p>Everyone knows the hardest part is finding customers who are actually buying your products.<p>I&#x27;m not saying the easier tasks are unimportant but if you don&#x27;t solve the hardest problem your business won&#x27;t go anywhere, no matter how good you are at the first two. Meanwhile someone with a good sense of business can often delegate the first two to someone else.
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soorajchandran超过 4 年前
There are some silly, stupid mistakes I&#x27;ve done when going through YCombinator - building my first startup.
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jatsign超过 4 年前
&quot;You can go a long way if you avoid stupid mistakes.&quot;<p>I find this true whenever I decide to take on a new endeavour. If you can learn from someone else&#x27;s mistakes, you&#x27;re better off than 80% of the competition in ANY MARKET.<p>So many people have an idea to make money, look at the competition, and give up. But if you keep going just a bit further, you find out that most of the competition, which looked so daunting at the start, is actually awful.
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segmondy超过 4 年前
How did they make such mistakes? I thought that was the entire point of YC, to guide founders and to make sure they don&#x27;t make such mistakes?
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lovetocode超过 4 年前
This is the type of advice we should see more here on HN.
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hevelvarik超过 4 年前
Interesting, I thought YC provides a lot of coaching for the business side of things they messed up on. I vaguely recall reading against all those practices in YC related blogging.<p>I guess they aren’t too heavy handed about it.<p>Also the coding on the floor thing, wow.<p>But after all is said and done, major props for getting to be a YC startup to begin with!
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blobbers超过 4 年前
The first start up I worked for we made our desks out of doors that had been discarded.<p>There&#x27;s an IKEA in East Palo Alto. Sleeping on the floor for extended periods of time is ridiculous. Even a $30 inflatable air mattress is better than that. Come on. It&#x27;s not like SV carpets are tatami mats.
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preommr超过 4 年前
&gt; We shipped features at a tremendous pace.<p>People say this, but what features?<p>If you&#x27;ve built something that&#x27;s buried under 3 menus, then that&#x27;s not going to have great returns. Every feature added is is another node in a graph with multiple branches to any related features. This includes non-code related things like ux, maintenance cost, marketing, tie-in with product vision (i.e. how well does it fit into that brief description of your product, and if it doesn&#x27;t how to do you communicate it).<p>Building the software is the hard part. It takes a few hours to talk to dozens of customers. People will use your product if it solves a pain point. It takes 100x more time to actually implement that feature.
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k__超过 4 年前
What makes so many people believe startups should be run that way?
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aaisola超过 4 年前
Shipping features without talking to users is a death knell. You end up with an bloated product that serves no one particularly well.<p>It sounds like all the other problems are just derivatives of this because all of the time was spent head down and &quot;working&quot; and no time spent being strategic, creative or learning what your customer base actually wants.
drchiu超过 4 年前
Marketing software is really hard, as others have mentioned, due to switching costs, the number of niche verticals, and user to user requirements.<p>I also notice that in the past few years, there are a flurry of new products in this space offering lifetime deals as well. This makes it so that a traditional saas offering needs to incorporate some sort of up sell later on.
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ilamont超过 4 年前
<i>Hard work is romanticized by the startup world. I used to brag how many hours I worked a day as if it is an achievement.</i><p>Yep. And it is still romanticized by the investor class looking for tireless worker bees and some successful founders who believe that because they built startups that way, it&#x27;s the only way.
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wolco2超过 4 年前
&quot;We slept on the carpeted floor&quot;<p>Is this how most ycombinator funded companies general work? You have to move California even if you are sleeping on the street? Wouldn&#x27;t staying in home country make more sense until profitibility is discovered?
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ElHacker超过 4 年前
I&#x27;m currently going through with my first startup, I&#x27;m a technical founder and this post definitely helps me to try to invest more of my time learning how to do sales. Thanks for sharing.
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