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Army wants smaller brigades, stronger divisions and lots of robots

165 点作者 Gaishan超过 4 年前

17 条评论

shartshooter超过 4 年前
It&#x27;s hard to predict what the next outbreak of war will look like.<p>Are we going to see more Syria&#x2F;Yemen&#x2F;Sudan-type conflicts or will we get back to a conventional war with tank battles and all?<p>In the 20th century warfare evolved trench warfare to asymmetrical war.<p>You don&#x27;t need divisions to make an impact, you need someone willing to set off a suicide vest in a police station, a pregnant woman to sit an a VBIED and drive past a checkpoint or someone strong enough to fire an RPG.<p>To assume robots or technology is going to solve those problems is probably a naive position.<p>It&#x27;s of course important to prepare for a larger scale war against China, Russia, etc. but realistically we&#x27;re more likely to be fighting a handful of goat herders in Afghanistan with an AK and a bag full of rice before we&#x27;re taking on an armored division.<p>The best line in the article was <i>&quot;We can’t hope endlessly that technology will make warfare easier or less brutal or less costly, [because] The reality is, it doesn’t; it changes it. It makes it harder in many cases.&quot;</i><p>Note: I was in the US Army from 03-07 serving in the Rangers with 4 deployments and have seen ingenuity trump technology
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nomel超过 4 年前
War should sicken everyone involved, with each soldier that comes home dead acting as a motivation to ask the question &quot;Is this worth the cost?&quot;. If one side never has to ask that question, how do you slow the war machine?<p>Related, I&#x27;m currently not afraid of my government using the military against us any time soon. I think the morals of the soldiers would severely limit this. With a fleet of robots, it seems it would be much easier to suppress the people.<p>Everyone knows this is the future, and saw it coming, but wow, I naively thought it would take longer.
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marktangotango超过 4 年前
I think this is the relevant part about the robotic aspect being discussed<p>&gt; Cold War doctrine envisioned engaging the enemy along what’s called the Forward Line Of Troops, or FLOT. In the new concept, according to a briefing at the conference, a Forward Line Of Unmanned Aerial Systems (FLUA) will fly ahead through no-man’s-land into enemy-held territory, followed by a Forward Line Of Robots (FLOR) on the ground, followed in turn by the Forward Line Of (Human) Troops. The unmanned systems will flush out the enemy, stumble into meeting engagements and ambushes, take and receive the first hits, and map the enemy position for the human troops coming along behind them.<p>Patton famously told his scouts to “go down that road until you get blown up then, report back”. Presumably robots would be assuming this role going forward.
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kristopolous超过 4 年前
It&#x27;s pretty incredible how just by coincidence the recommendation exactly matches what would be most profitable for contracting firms, have the least amount oversight from the public on how the tax dollars are used and is also the best strategy for avoiding the politically costly ordeal of hurting children of people who vote in American elections.<p>Just a remarkable coincidence
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aaron695超过 4 年前
It&#x27;s not going to be that complex.<p>It&#x27;s loitering munition like the IAI Harop that are being used all this year in war.<p>Suicide drone, after suicide drone raining down.<p>We are just a little off really cheap mass production.<p>Harop video <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;twitter.com&#x2F;KyleJGlen&#x2F;status&#x2F;1311725913172856833" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;twitter.com&#x2F;KyleJGlen&#x2F;status&#x2F;1311725913172856833</a> <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;twitter.com&#x2F;AuroraIntel&#x2F;status&#x2F;1320459261579796484" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;twitter.com&#x2F;AuroraIntel&#x2F;status&#x2F;1320459261579796484</a> <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;twitter.com&#x2F;kamerknc&#x2F;status&#x2F;1318292332165402624" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;twitter.com&#x2F;kamerknc&#x2F;status&#x2F;1318292332165402624</a><p>Home made Armenian kamikaze drone strike on an Azerbaijan military target in Karabakh. <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;twitter.com&#x2F;Caucasuswar&#x2F;status&#x2F;1320408687094226947" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;twitter.com&#x2F;Caucasuswar&#x2F;status&#x2F;1320408687094226947</a><p>(And nothing to do with that stupid Slaughterbots, man I hate that video)
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zelias超过 4 年前
Generally you want to start out with stim and combat shield, but sometimes the widow mines are the way to go instead.
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NalNezumi超过 4 年前
As someone who studied Robotics in Uni I remember the ethics classes, and the focus on military usage of robotics.<p>Still, I wonder how many people from Robotics would accept a military application development job offering? I would guess the number would be higher than most people would feel comfortable to admit. I certainly would, if the technical aspect of it sounds interesting &amp; challenging (and well paid) and if the opportunity was given when other opportunities are scarce.<p>The latter was the case of the local market when I graduated; the country of my residence had very low number of any robotics jobs, so most people I knew went in to traditional industries (or CS) anyway. Less than 20% of the classmate I knew is right now working in robotics. If any of them would&#x27;ve given the chance to work in what they studied (and found fun) they would probably take it even though it would include military application.
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jsilence超过 4 年前
If only we as humanity would stop fighting and start using these huge amounts of resources for good. Much would be gained.
fsflover超过 4 年前
Please don&#x27;t let this happen: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=9fa9lVwHHqg" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=9fa9lVwHHqg</a>.
baybal2超过 4 年前
Sounds surprisingly familiar<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;upload.wikimedia.org&#x2F;wikipedia&#x2F;commons&#x2F;thumb&#x2F;c&#x2F;c5&#x2F;3rd_US_Infantry_Division_Pentomic.png&#x2F;1280px-3rd_US_Infantry_Division_Pentomic.png" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;upload.wikimedia.org&#x2F;wikipedia&#x2F;commons&#x2F;thumb&#x2F;c&#x2F;c5&#x2F;3r...</a>
killjoywashere超过 4 年前
A couple of notes for those seeking solace at the far ends of the spectrum (chicken-hawks and peaceniks): no one hates war more than soldiers. We&#x27;d all go home if we could. But the enemy gets a vote. Few countries are necessarily our enemy, and we&#x27;d like to keep it that way. Making a military success unpalatable helps keep it that way. Detente is in many ways offers a more stable peace than pacifism, particularly for a major world power entangled in many alliances.
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threw243234超过 4 年前
What a dystopian world it&#x27;ll be when the US gets its hands on this! The only thing stopping warmongers in Washington is the US public opinion in having American soldiers killed in random wars meant to enrich the MIC. Once the human cost is removed, every nation on earth will be forced to turn into a vassal and the Anglo-Saxon imperial termites will run the world again.<p>The British empire is dead, long live the American empire.
loceng超过 4 年前
I view health as the other end of the spectrum to war - with an open mind and open heart, found through practices to heal past unhealed&#x2F;unprocessed trauma - and so spending on health and good policy regarding protecting and supporting health (preventative, proactive) you&#x27;re in fact combating war (civil and otherwise); plus lead by example, role model.
rlv-dan超过 4 年前
Title should say <i>US Army</i>
exabrial超过 4 年前
Task and Purpose on YouTube just did a video about mixed weapon squads and how this was a relatively new development in WWII. Traditionally you would have entire regiments of the same weapons line up and face off.
m0zg超过 4 年前
And I want the Army to get the fuck out of the Middle East. Not gonna happen now, I know, but I still want it. A man can dream, right?<p>I don&#x27;t get the downvotes for this one in particular. Does anyone here _not_ want to stop droning children in the Middle East?
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aazaa超过 4 年前
&gt; “Be cautious of revolutions in military affairs,” said Donald Sando, Donahoe’s civilian deputy and an intellectual mainstay at Fort Benning for many years. “We can’t hope endlessly that technology will make warfare easier or less brutal or less costly, [because] The reality is, it doesn’t; it changes it. It makes it harder in many cases.”<p>I can&#x27;t imagine the mental gymnastics those working on this horrible idea must go through just to look themselves in the mirror every day.
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