MacBook Pro 13-inch with M1

Main threads:<p>on M1 <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=25049079" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=25049079</a><p>on Mac <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=25049528" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=25049528</a>

The 2.8x faster CPU claim is based on the following fine print:<p>&gt; Testing conducted by Apple in October 2020 using preproduction 13-inch MacBook Pro systems with Apple M1 chip, as well as production 1.7GHz quad-core Intel Core i7-based 13-inch MacBook Pro systems, all configured with 16GB RAM and 2TB SSD. Open source project built with prerelease Xcode 12.2 with Apple Clang 12.0.0, Ninja 1.10.0.git, and CMake 3.16.5. Performance tests are conducted using specific computer systems and reflect the approximate performance of MacBook Pro.<p>I can&#x27;t find any 2020 model of the Macbook Pro with a 1.7Ghz i7 chip so I&#x27;m wondering if they are comparing it with an even older model. Would definitely wait for these to get in the hands of viewers before taking Apple at their word.<p>Edit: Looks like they are comparing with the Intel 8th-gen i7 version of the A2289 model which was released in May this year. There was a small deal made at the time when they released new Macbooks with both 8th-gen and 10th-gen models. Apparently there is not much difference between the 8th-gen and the 10th-gen chips in terms of CPU performance but it&#x27;s still a bit disingenuous of Apple not to compare with the best of their previous models.<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.howtogeek.com&#x2F;671586&#x2F;should-you-buy-the-13-inch-macbook-pro-2020&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.howtogeek.com&#x2F;671586&#x2F;should-you-buy-the-13-inch-...</a> <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=-hSOuK7qBgM" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=-hSOuK7qBgM</a>

The basic configuration still ships with 8GB of RAM. 16GB is $200 extra. I had an 8GB MacBook Pro in 2013. It wasn&#x27;t enough then, it&#x27;s absolutely inadequate now.

Summary:<p>- 8 cores, 16 core neural engine.<p>- GPU, RAM, Secure enclave and CPU integrated.<p>- 5.x graphics performance.<p>- 10h more battery life.<p>- Thunderbolt&#x2F;USB 4.<p>Available from today, starts shipping next week. Price starts at $1299, or $1199 for education.<p>Edit: 8GB RAM + 256GB SSD: $1299, 16GB RAM + 512GB SSD: 1499.

Intel MacBook Pro gets 4 ports, this only has two which is odd and annoying.

Why are they limited to 16gb? Is this related to the arm chip design?

As someone dying to replace their 2017 15&quot; Pro with something with a usable keyboard, I don&#x27;t know if I&#x27;m convinced. Two fewer ports, a max of 16 GB of RAM, and no chassis redesign. Curious if anyone in a similar boat is planning on taking the plunge?

Is the &quot;Pro&quot; still appropriate?

This appears to replace the low end MacBook Pro with the higher end Intel models still available.

I’d just some weeks ago order MacBook Pro 13’ 512 gb, 16gb 2,3 ghz 4 core intel core i7 (10.gen), turboboozt up til 4,1.<p>Still waiting for it to deliver!<p>What to to? Cancel it and buy the new one with m1?

So, the baseline model has the M1 and the more expensive version has Intel i5. What&#x27;s the point if the M1 is supposedly faster (or is it)?

Any guesses for GeekBench 5 scores?<p>My expectations: - Single core: 1600-2000 range - Multi core: 7000-10000 range - Metal: 19000-23000 range

Are there any independent performance comparisons for x86 apps ?<p>(I guess not yet, but still worth to ask here)

they haven&#x27;t given up on the touch-bar yet, which is a bummer.