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Ask HN: How is the US systemically racist, specifically? What laws are codified?

3 点作者 tdevito超过 4 年前

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dang超过 4 年前
Your submissions like this have been breaking the HN guidelines. These are flamewar topics that the site isn&#x27;t capable of discussing substantively, for the same reason one can&#x27;t listen to music or play a board game in a burning house. Could you please review <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;newsguidelines.html" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;newsguidelines.html</a> and stick to the rules?<p>Edit: I&#x27;m afraid this problem has been affecting your comments as well: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=25070626" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=25070626</a>. We ban accounts that post like that, regardless of how wrong or how provocative other commenters were also being. I don&#x27;t want to ban you, so if you would please stick within the site guidelines—including avoiding predictable ideological flamewar generally—we&#x27;d be grateful. I realize that&#x27;s not always easy because these topics have a huge energy and people feel so strongly about them.
smt88超过 4 年前
1. If you sincerely want an answer to this, it&#x27;s easy to find arguments on either side. I don&#x27;t think HN is an appropriate venue for it, which is why I flagged it (not because the question upsets me or anything -- curiosity is great!)<p>2. Systems can be racist in the absence of laws. For example, there are still many whites-only country clubs in the US, and there&#x27;s no law enforcing that. Schools punish Black children more severely for the same behaviors. Those are just small examples -- there are many.<p>3. You may benefit from existing discussions on this same topic, such as this one:<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.reddit.com&#x2F;r&#x2F;changemyview&#x2F;comments&#x2F;her5hb&#x2F;cmv_systemic_racism_does_not_exist_in_the_united&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.reddit.com&#x2F;r&#x2F;changemyview&#x2F;comments&#x2F;her5hb&#x2F;cmv_sy...</a>
LukeBMM超过 4 年前
It&#x27;s also important to keep in mind the distinction between _law_ and _policy_. The way the question is phrased sounds a bit like you&#x27;re asking someone to pull out the big dusty book of &quot;The Law&quot; and find you a section, page, and paragraph number. That expectation doesn&#x27;t quite seem accurate or productive.
eiji超过 4 年前
Anything &quot;specific&quot; in writing would most likely be unconstitutional. So you wont find anything in writing anywhere. Not in a law, a regulation or even a handbook printed in this century.<p>Which is why this is a complicated topic bordering on religion or a general mindset. I would recommend to listen to the &quot;Black Intellectual Roundtable&quot; with Bret Weinstein to get some general ideas. It&#x27;s an hour of discussion.
LukeBMM超过 4 年前
While only covering one specific subject - local, state, and federal housing policies - _The Color of Law_ has a wealth of intentional, _de jure_ examples and their systemic, self-perpetuating, multi-generational impacts.<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;The_Color_of_Law" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;The_Color_of_Law</a>
uberman超过 4 年前
Racism in the US like <i>most</i> other places is no longer based on codified law, but rather how laws are applied and personal prejudices.<p>While there are no longer laws that say &quot;Whites can but Blacks can&#x27;t&quot;, there are clearly laws that intentionally or un-intentionally impact some people more than others.
ultrablue超过 4 年前
<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.dartmouth.edu&#x2F;press-releases&#x2F;losing-the-american-dream.html" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.dartmouth.edu&#x2F;press-releases&#x2F;losing-the-american...</a>
krapp超过 4 年前
If you want to understand the theory and premise behind systemic racism in the US, Wikipedia and Google can provide you with numerous avenues from which to begin your research.
rvz超过 4 年前
I&#x27;m not sure if you will get a rational, unbiased answer on this orange website without flamewars or users mentioning wildly utopian ideas.
Grakel超过 4 年前
As Morgan Freeman says, it doesn&#x27;t. <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.businessinsider.com&#x2F;morgan-freeman-race-is-excuse-for-income-inequality-2014-6" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.businessinsider.com&#x2F;morgan-freeman-race-is-excus...</a>