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GFXBench: Apple M1

268 点作者 admiralspoo超过 4 年前

28 条评论

quelsolaar超过 4 年前
Why are all performance measurements of the M1 done against stuff that is far below state of the art?<p>So its faster then a 3 generations old budget card, that doesn&#x27;t run nVidia optimized drivers, over I&#x27;m assuming Thunderbolt. So?<p>So its faster then the last Mac book air, that was old, thermal constrained, and had a chip from Intel that has been overtaken by AMD.<p>Every test is single core, but guess what, modern computers have multi cores and and hyper threading and that matters.<p>Apples presentation was full of weasel words like &quot;in its class&quot; &quot;compared to previous models&quot;. Fine thats marketing, but can we please get some real, fair benchmarks, against the best the competition has to offer before we conclude that apples new silicon is gift from god to computing?<p>If you are going to convince me, show me how the CPU stacks up to a top of the line Ryzen&#x2F;threadripper and run Cinebench. If you want to convince me about the graphics&#x2F;ML capabilities, compare it to a 3090 RTX using running Vulkan&#x2F;Cuda.
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PragmaticPulp超过 4 年前
Compared to the AMD Radeon Pro 5500M, the base GPU in the 16&quot; MacBook Pro: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;gfxbench.com&#x2F;compare.jsp?benchmark=gfx50&amp;did1=90754264&amp;os1=OS+X&amp;api1=metal&amp;hwtype1=GPU&amp;hwname1=Apple+M1&amp;D2=AMD+Radeon+Pro+5500M" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;gfxbench.com&#x2F;compare.jsp?benchmark=gfx50&amp;did1=907542...</a><p>Compared to the AMD Radeon Pro 5600M, the +$700 upgrade in the top of the line MacBook Pro 16&quot;: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;gfxbench.com&#x2F;compare.jsp?benchmark=gfx50&amp;did1=90754264&amp;os1=OS+X&amp;api1=metal&amp;hwtype1=GPU&amp;hwname1=Apple+M1&amp;D2=AMD+Radeon+Pro+5600M" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;gfxbench.com&#x2F;compare.jsp?benchmark=gfx50&amp;did1=907542...</a><p>Note that the Onscreen numbers are capped at 60fps on OS X, so ignore any Onscreen results at 59-60fps.
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unsigner超过 4 年前
This is significant because the NVIDIA 1050Ti, while way slower than the state of the art, is still the meaningful practical minimum discrete GPU. There’s no 2050 or 3050 - if you go about looking for the cheapest PC suitable for gaming, you might buy a 1050Ti. It is head and shoulders above the integrated GPUs (yes, even the AMD Vega ones), and comparable in power to last-gen (as of last week) consoles, the PS4 and Xbox One S.<p>This in turn means that every PC and console game created up until now, and probably for the next year or so, will comfortably run on a 1050Ti, even with compromises (“medium” settings, middling resolution like 1080p).<p>For the first generation of Apple’s Mac GPU, running at 10W, this is a great result. This means, Apples idiosyncrasies aside, there will be no <i>technical</i> problems in porting games to macOS. (Metal is less of a problem than you’d think - if you use Unreal, Unity, DirectX 11&#x2F;12 or Vulkan for graphics, the work needed will be on the order of a few man&#x2F;months, which is small change in game development budgets.)
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pier25超过 4 年前
I&#x27;ve never been so excited and so turned off at the same time.<p>The ARM Mac hardware is looking fantastic, but OTOH macOS is getting worse every year...
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jeswin超过 4 年前
If you switch the OS to Windows DirectX:<p>OnScreen Aztec High Tier gives you 54fps on the M1, vs 106fps on the 1050Ti. Normal tier is capped at 60fps for OSX while Windows goes up to 156fps.<p>That&#x27;s a better comparison since it represents the best optimised platforms for this hardware. Comparing with NVidia on OSX isn&#x27;t very meaningful.
_venkatasg超过 4 年前
I&#x27;m beginning to think I can replace my Macbook Pro 2015 with the new Macbook Air...the numbers are so tempting.<p>Let&#x27;s see how the reviews turn out, where people will use at real-world tasks.
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dang超过 4 年前
Recent, related, and massive:<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=25065026" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=25065026</a> (&quot;Apple Silicon M1 chip in MacBook Air outperforms high-end 16-inch MacBook Pro&quot;)<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=25049079" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=25049079</a> (&quot;Apple unveils M1, its first system-on-a-chip for portable Mac computers&quot;)
KabirKwatra超过 4 年前
The 1050ti is not supported on modern macos running metal. See the difference when the card is on windows or Linux running real nvidia drivers as the card was built to.
YetAnotherNick超过 4 年前
I think more relevant is last gen macbook pro&#x27;s integrated graphics compared with M1:<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;gfxbench.com&#x2F;compare.jsp?benchmark=gfx50&amp;did1=65142191&amp;os1=OS+X&amp;api1=metal&amp;hwtype1=GPU&amp;hwname1=Intel%28R%29+Iris+Plus+Graphics+655&amp;D2=Apple+M1" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;gfxbench.com&#x2F;compare.jsp?benchmark=gfx50&amp;did1=651421...</a>
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tripham超过 4 年前
These numbers are quite good if you realize that the M1 iGPU is comparable to a discrete GPU. Also the power consumption is for the entire package not just the discrete GPU alone.
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joakleaf超过 4 年前
OpenCL Geekbench results for MacBook Pro : <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;browser.geekbench.com&#x2F;v5&#x2F;compute&#x2F;search?utf8=&amp;q=MacbookPro17%2C1" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;browser.geekbench.com&#x2F;v5&#x2F;compute&#x2F;search?utf8=&amp;q=Macb...</a><p>About 60% of Radeon Pro 5500M (in the 16&quot; 2019 Pro)
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bjoli超过 4 年前
So, it is slightly better than a 1050TI. What does that mean? I do nothing to stress my graphics card at all, so explain it like I am 5, I guess...
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dawnerd超过 4 年前
It&#x27;s still mind boggling why the 13&quot; MBP w&#x2F; M1 can&#x27;t run dual 4k.
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boardwaalk超过 4 年前
We don’t know if this is the 7 or 8 core M1 GPU, nor whether this is the actively cooled MacBook Pro&#x2F;Mac Mini or the passively cooled Air.<p>So this seems pretty useless.
banachtarski超过 4 年前
For reference, the 1050 Ti card is considered the minimum spec at many AAA game studios.
nottorp超过 4 年前
That&#x27;s decent performance for a fanless laptop for sure.<p>Too bad that with the architecture change all you have to play is iOS games...
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kushan2020超过 4 年前
I would be interested in knowing if I can play Civ VI on a Retina display with this thing.
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maverickmax90超过 4 年前
What are the temperatures? Dont see any data on that; Frames&#x2F;sec means very little if your macbook becomes hot leading to throttling...
olliej超过 4 年前
It&#x27;s been a long time since I&#x27;ve actually followed graphics benchmarks at all - where is this on the scale from intel intergrated to modern discrete laptop gpu? E.g. a radeon 5500 or similar?<p>[edit: to be clear I mean modern feature set type stuff, not just raw framerate]
diebeforei485超过 4 年前
This makes me very curious about the performance of their future 16&quot; MacBook Pros once they move away from Intel. I assume they&#x27;d still have a discrete GPU, but maybe as an option instead of as standard?
205g0超过 4 年前
Still impressed by M1&#x27;s overall performance. If the M1 could only drive 3 displays (eg 2 external + 1 internal in a Macbook) and not just 2.
hughw超过 4 年前
Does M1 perform these graphics calculations on the general purpose CPU, or is there a specialized graphics subsystem that does e.g. SIMT?
EugeneOZ超过 4 年前
I&#x27;m not an expert in the field of GPU&#x2F;CPU benchmarks.<p>Is it a synthetic benchmark or not?
gjsman-1000超过 4 年前
Quick Question: Is GFXBench ARM-native? If this is actually under Rosetta...
trimbo超过 4 年前
How do they have one? How do we know these are real numbers?
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j3i4j43JJJ超过 4 年前
The old 1050 TI only has 2.1 TFLOPS. Compare M1 against the real beast RTX 3090 with 35 TFLOPS - that&#x27;s 17 times more than in 1050 TI. 2.1 TFLOPS doesn&#x27;t impress me at all.
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docsaintly超过 4 年前
Why is everyone surprised by this? Fudging numbers, stealing credit, and blatantly lying is what Apple has always done. Of course they put a beautiful marketing layer on top of it all so its slightly less obvious.
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bt3超过 4 年前
Without directly commenting on the performance of the M1 chip, I still believe the biggest hurdle is software compatibility. Apple&#x27;s &quot;universal binary&quot; seems dubious, and I don&#x27;t believe Rosetta 2 is anything more than emulation software which will have performance ramifications.<p>Microsoft has faced this same problem themselves. Releasing the Surface Pro X is a great example of a machine that is limited by software.<p>As others have noted in other threads, Apple&#x27;s ability to run iOS apps natively on the M1 chip seems like a great mechanism to lower the switching costs, though I maintain the chasm left to cross is software.<p>This is all of course, notwithstanding the &quot;locked down OS&quot; concerns from the front page for the past day or so. Does an M1 Macbook Air with BigSur make a competent development machine?
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