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Intel Reinvents Transistors Using New 3-D Structure

470 点作者 brewski大约 14 年前

27 条评论

pilom大约 14 年前
Again one of those "I bet AnandTech has the best description out there" and I go check and am pleasantly surprised.<p><a href="http://www.anandtech.com/show/4313/intel-announces-first-22nm-3d-trigate-transistors-shipping-in-2h-2011" rel="nofollow">http://www.anandtech.com/show/4313/intel-announces-first-22n...</a>
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sjtgraham大约 14 年前
This is the sort of thing I read and think to myself "go check HN comments where someone smart will explain this in layman's terms"
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Symmetry大约 14 年前
Awesome! The current a transistor can put out is porportional to the width over the length and chip designers usually want wide transistors[1], but wide transistors take up space which causes more line capacitance. This innovation will let people put more, wider transistors in a given area which will both increase the current they're putting out and decrease the capacitance they're fighting against, leading to higher frequencies[2].<p>[1] Wider transistors also cause more capacitance for the other transistors that are driving them, but for most modern designs this is smaller than line capacitance.<p>[2] Having transistors closer together can also help overcome speed-of-light delay. This can be important in caches.<p>EDIT: Also, some stuff I didn't notice until reading the Anandtech article is that the thinness of the silicon will give you the same artificial limitation of the depletion region that SOI does, leading to the same accelerated inversion. Oh, and better isolation from the base too. I don't think that I can explain that succinctly for non-EEs so go read Wikipedia on MOSFETs if you're interested.
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jws大约 14 年前
This Intel R&#38;D paper sums the technology up and has a picture that makes it clear what they are doing: <a href="http://www.intel.com/technology/silicon/integrated_cmos.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.intel.com/technology/silicon/integrated_cmos.htm</a><p>In a nutshell, the drain/source is a tall trace, the gate approaches from the side and climbs over the drain/source, covering it on three sides.
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tspiteri大约 14 年前
The New York Times has an article: <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2011/05/05/science/05chip.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.nytimes.com/2011/05/05/science/05chip.html</a><p>The article links to some graphics: <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/imagepages/2011/05/05/science/05chip_graphic.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.nytimes.com/imagepages/2011/05/05/science/05chip_...</a>
sosuke大约 14 年前
I liked Engadget's coverage of the release <a href="http://www.engadget.com/2011/05/04/intel-will-mass-produce-22nm-3d-transistors-for-all-future-cpus/" rel="nofollow">http://www.engadget.com/2011/05/04/intel-will-mass-produce-2...</a><p>I'm a sucker for videos. This Tri-Gate tech was first announced in 2002, I love seeing pie in the sky technology come into reality and widespread usage.
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stephenjudkins大约 14 年前
From what I've heard, using 50% as much power for the same performance as the previous generation still will not be sufficient to bring Intel's Atom performance/energy consumption ratio to that offered by ARM chips. However, it's a huge leap in the right direction. Add better-designed power-saving features on the next generation of Atom chips, and future process shrinkages, and it's easy to see ARM's lead getting chipped away until it's gone.
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bradly大约 14 年前
Anyone know if the 3D structure is patented by Intel? If so, wouldn't this give Intel a monopoly on transistors given how much better this new design performs?
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FrojoS大约 14 年前
Looking at these pics <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/imagepages/2011/05/05/science/05chip_graphic.html?ref=science" rel="nofollow">http://www.nytimes.com/imagepages/2011/05/05/science/05chip_...</a> its almost impossible to not get the feeling, that we are still in the stone age and a bright future lies ahead of us.
nextparadigms大约 14 年前
I think this will mostly help increase the life expectancy of the Moore's Law by another 10 years or so. When we'll get to 11nm or whatever is the limit, we'll just start stacking layers of transistors on each other. That will only work until the chips become too thick, though.
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SlipperySlope大约 14 年前
Curious as to what clock speeds will be available when Ivy Bridge is released in the first half of 2012? If one expects a 37% performance increase at low voltages, then what would be the performance increase at standard voltage? 20% or so?
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vondur大约 14 年前
I often wonder at the incredibly small size of these chips (22nm) if the have to worry about relativistic effects of electrons "jumping".
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deweller大约 14 年前
A couple of highlights from the article:<p>"The key to today's breakthrough is Intel's ability to deploy its novel 3-D Tri-Gate transistor design into high-volume manufacturing."<p>"The 22nm 3-D Tri-Gate transistors provide up to 37 percent performance increase at low voltage versus Intel's 32nm planar transistors."
acgourley大约 14 年前
"Moore's Law" is mentioned 14 times.
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bryanallen22大约 14 年前
I don't mean to trivialize this, but "reinvent" sounds a little strong to me. This is a modification on silicon design, and a great one, but is just another notch in the miracle of Moore's law. It's more evolutionary than revolutionary.<p>See 2007 for a similar announcement and reaction:<p><a href="http://hardware.slashdot.org/story/07/01/27/1614207/Intel-IBM-Announce-Chip-Breakthrough" rel="nofollow">http://hardware.slashdot.org/story/07/01/27/1614207/Intel-IB...</a>
schmittz大约 14 年前
Although not the link for this story, the fact that this story broke in the NYT (not that surprising), with an explanation to attempt transistor design and functionality (incredibly surprising) is really uplifting. A good piece of purely anecdotal evidence against those who claim America is in perpetual intellectual decline. The general populace IS interested enough to try to understand complex ideas.
slackerIII大约 14 年前
Will this allow them to increase clock speeds? They mention a 37% perf increase, but I don't know what exactly they mean by that.
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makmanalp大约 14 年前
"the world's first 3-D transistors, called Tri-Gate, in a production technology"<p>I wonder if this is truly Intel's invention or not:<p><a href="http://scholar.google.com/scholar?hl=en&#38;q=tri+gate+transistor&#38;btnG=Search&#38;as_sdt=0%2C22&#38;as_ylo=&#38;as_vis=0" rel="nofollow">http://scholar.google.com/scholar?hl=en&#38;q=tri+gate+trans...</a>
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DonnyV大约 14 年前
Its funny how at the end of the day basic shapes are still an important rule in technology :-)
GavinB大约 14 年前
It will be interesting to see whether patents will make this a defensible innovation. Will AMD et all have to invent a similar but materially different technology in order to keep pace?
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rbanffy大约 14 年前
After watching the video I have to wonder: why not use the shrinking ray to reduce the transistors themselves?
helium大约 14 年前
Great, now I won't have to learn Erlang for a few more years
pcora大约 14 年前
Anyone care to explain this to a normal person? :)
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PawelDecowski大约 14 年前
Who at Intel thinks type set at 12px is legible?
rkon大约 14 年前
Intel stock is up 2% and ARM is down 6% (was down 7.7% in London trading). Looks like their Apple-esque announcement strategy has had some impact.
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kin大约 14 年前
sometimes i feel like intel should space out their chips more. as a consumer i feel like i can't keep up.
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espeed大约 14 年前
This is a big win for graph DBs that need to scale up rather than out.