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Bill Gates is wrong about education

32 点作者 rajlego超过 4 年前

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fxtentacle超过 4 年前
This strikes me as a very elitist article.<p>Bill Gates wants to help the 99% by improving school life for them. This article argues that instead of slightly raising the average among the 99%, we should instead help the top 1% and given that we now focus our budget on a lot less people, each of them will see bigger improvements.<p>Among other things, the article says &quot;healthy childhood of few concerns without the relegation to daycare is the root of greatness&quot;. Unless they are independently wealthy before having kids, most normal parents will need daycare because they still need to work for money.<p>My personal opinion is that recent years have clearly shown us that we live in a winner takes all system and that wealth doesn&#x27;t usually dribble down. Large companies keep billions in profit offshore, where they don&#x27;t pay taxes (that could help education) and where the money surely won&#x27;t help the middle class find jobs with livable wages.
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sebmellen超过 4 年前
&gt; <i>Last but not least, could Gates&#x27;s approach be an afterglow of his dropping out from Harvard. I see that over and over again, dropouts seem to suffer from this life-long hangover about what could have been? They tend to over-appreciate the power of schooling or the power of college. In the same way, I might be under-appreciating my own degrees. Gates is the opposite of Peter Thiel who studiously climbed the educational ladder until he stumbled to see the light. Thiel is now one of the staunchest critics of college.</i><p>I have wondered the same, and often felt this longing for &quot;what could have been&quot; myself. (I&#x27;m a college dropout who pursued a rather unconventional startup path.) Even though I&#x27;ve found myself surprisingly well-equipped to tackle most challenges, even when working with researchers, I have a very strong sense of impostor syndrome. I feel that I <i>don&#x27;t know enough about what I don&#x27;t know</i>.<p>Sometimes, I think that if I&#x27;d spent more time learning, I would know <i>where to look</i> to learn the next thing. Perhaps this is just imagination.<p>I&#x27;m sure I would feel the same kind of longing had I spent more time in college. A funny predicament.<p>EDIT: If the page doesn&#x27;t load at first, reload the page. It should load right away.
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otabdeveloper4超过 4 年前
&gt; Do not invest in schooling in the industrialized world. This brings miniscule returns on investment. Invest in bringing the web to all kids in all corners of the world. This will change this planet!<p>Wow, was this written in 1995 or something?<p>Reads ridiculously out of date and wrong today.<p>&quot;The web&quot; today is Facebook and Instagram and exploitative mobile games. Not what you want your kids to be exposed to.
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DavidPiper超过 4 年前
This was a bizarre read. On the one hand it came across as a (well-tempered) rant against Bill Gates.<p>On the other hand, the author seems to want the world to produce more people like Bill Gates:<p>&gt; He looks at education from a societal point of view, while I look at the brain of an individual. He wants to move the masses to high achievement, while I want to produce more little Bill Gateses.<p>&gt; Unlike myself, Bill Gates does not focus on having more Bill Gateses. He focuses on helping the poor, in boosting qualifications of the middle class, and adds &quot;you can&#x27;t run a society on top 5%&quot;. He is right, however, that top 5% can forge a path in education that would inspire all the rest. They cannot be run through a compulsory system set on pushing through the remaining 95%.<p>I see where the author is coming from here, but I question whether &quot;the education system&quot; is at fault for the lack of excess Bill Gateses in the world. (I would attribute it more to things like genetics, money and luck).<p>My own view at the moment leans towards &quot;a rising tide lifts all boats&quot;. No, the education system doesn&#x27;t work for everyone, and it&#x27;s certainly not just the top 5% that it doesn&#x27;t work for. (Sir Ken Robinson has had some interesting things to say about this - I highly recommend his books and TED talks.)<p>The education system in every country (and state in many cases) is different, and every individual&#x27;s experience of their education is different.<p>&gt; My approach is probably more suited to well-developed nations where the industrial approach makes people sick of schooling.<p>This is a really interesting observation - let&#x27;s just talk about ways the education systems can be improved in Income-Level 4 countries then (<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.gapminder.org&#x2F;topics&#x2F;four-income-levels&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.gapminder.org&#x2F;topics&#x2F;four-income-levels&#x2F;</a>), and leave Bill Gates out of it completely.
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m12k超过 4 年前
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asciimov超过 4 年前
To improve education you have to improve opportunity, and in different places that will mean different things.<p>Talent and ability is well distributed, but having access to resources to make the most of that ability tends to be concentrated in the richer urbanized areas.<p>20% of the US population is rural, those kids are lucky if they have access to broadband, or teachers that can teach well, or access to cultural opportunities (museums, concerts, even libraries). In my metro, the poor side of town has problems getting broadband internet and computers for every child that needs one.<p>Our time would be better spent making sure everybody has a better opportunity rather than just focusing on those who were lucky enough to live on the right side of town.
viburnum超过 4 年前
Does Bill Gates send his kids to austere charter schools, or to expensive, nurturing, creative private schools?
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Jamie9912超过 4 年前
Looks like it&#x27;s down.. Why do people have webservers that fall over after a few hundred requests?
absolutelyrad超过 4 年前
The author doesn&#x27;t get the goal of education. It is to reduce population growth for the populace. The best make it to the top anyways.
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jaybrendansmith超过 4 年前
So many misconceptions about education, some good ideas though. 1. adult-centric point of view is one of the driving forces behind the failure of modern education. Wrong. Educators spend many years studying pedagogy, and what is and is not developmentally appropriate. They get rapidly good at telling which kids need extra help, and who can go read independently on the rug. 2. healthy childhood of few concerns without the relegation to daycare is the root of greatness Correct. This is the true secret, all children must have a safe place where they can independently learn. Anxiety about family, money, food, is generally terrible for learning. 3. best formula for helping kids get interested in science by Neil deGrasse Tyson is: &quot;Get off their back!&quot;. Largely Correct. Schools should provide more time for self-study and play. A longer day with less direct teaching and more exploration and play would do wonders for many children. Several countries already do this (Not enough) 4. passions born in childhood change lives Correct, but not everyone will have this drive. Personality matters. There are dandelion children, and orchid children. Some will succeed no matter where they grow. Some wilt and die without constant care. 5. relentless lifelong pursuit of goals born from youthful passions is a solid formula for success Partial, see above. Personality is more important than IQ up to a point. Nobody can teach you personality, they can only repress it. 6. mass production of great teachers is no easier than mass production of genius Wrong. Enough &#x27;natural&#x27; teachers exist, but due to the disparagement of the profession in the US, as well as the poor relative pay, most choose something else. If we valued teachers, and paid them well, this would change immediately. PS It has nothing to do with unions. 7. in development, minor trajectory nudges within the push zone by inspirational tutors are welcome Correct. This requires great teachers, but we can also leverage all the &#x27;greats&#x27; from other fields that are looking to pay it forward. More funding would allow this. 8. pranks, rebellions, and disobedience at school are an expression of freedom and may foster better learning Correct. More free time, more time for expression. Oddly, this is where American schools are much better than most European. In America, there is more room to be an individual, and most are not crushed with conformity and homework as they are in Europe. 9. grants for kids to get to college are as good as grants for kids to skip college. All support for the youth is welcome Correct, but remember personality? Most don&#x27;t know what they want to do or be until they are in their 20s. Many creative individuals are late bloomers, they don&#x27;t know what startup to start. They have not found their calling yet. Most are better off in college, doing more exploring. 10. dropping out of college can turn out to be a good thing Wrong. Yes, everybody likes these stories. Everybody likes these inspirational tales of drop outs. But you&#x27;re looking at major survivorship bias here. Most dropouts do not make it, at least not right away. Most would have been better off completing their schooling, because most do not have the personality to persist at a startup, or they are missing any of the other 20 or so qualities necessary to succeed. Most need to spend time learning those qualities, and many actually know that they do ... they don&#x27;t have the arrogance&#x2F;confidence to believe they can succeed yet. Bill Gates is not wrong. All progress is made by inches, in fits and starts, in tweaks and small changes of degree, and by experimentation. Big sweeping changes just create 100 other issues. Any fundamental changes must be backed by solid evidence, and there must be agreement about what a good outcome should look like. Suppose the changes suggested create 100 more Bill Gates, but destroy the lives of 10,000 poorer children? Is that a good outcome? With limited time, money, and personnel, the tradeoffs are always immense.
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tigertigertiger超过 4 年前
In the whole article the word Intelligence or IQ wasn&#x27;t mentioned once. The whole Bill Gates success formula is &quot;healthy childhood and no daycare&quot; is complete bullshit. You know what enabled him in the first place to be a genius? Being a genius. For outliers like Gates, Goethe and Gauß you don&#x27;t need any of these mentioned factors. It is close to 100% just genetics. Also survivor ship bias is a huge factor.
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