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A founder’s guide to understanding users

209 点作者 mgadams3超过 4 年前

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kevsim超过 4 年前
One mistake I (and no doubt other founders) made was assuming you&#x27;d &quot;get it right&quot; because you were scratching your own itch. My cofounder and I started our company [0] literally based on the pain points we were feeling and still, when the first user tests on the first version of the product came around, users didn&#x27;t get it. Or they didn&#x27;t see the value. It was a tough lesson - we were building the thing we thought we wanted and others didn&#x27;t want it. But we persevered, pivoted a little here, rewrote a lot there, and ended up with something that users not only liked a lot more, but also worked better for us too.<p>Moral of the story is scratching your own itch makes you qualified to talk about the problem, it doesn&#x27;t make you an expert on a good solution.<p>0: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;kitemaker.co" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;kitemaker.co</a>, the super fast, hotkey-driven product management tool&#x2F;issue tracker that has deep integrations to GitHub, Figma, Slack, etc.
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kareemm超过 4 年前
Great read and bang-on (I&#x27;m running product on the fourth software business I&#x27;ve started - the first three were sold). But there&#x27;s a missing piece to the puzzle though. The author talks about using data so that you don&#x27;t fall victim to bias, but he doesn&#x27;t talk about <i>how</i> to do that.<p>In my experience to ensure data-driven product decisions you need both a <i>system</i> and <i>process</i> to:<p>1. Collect feedback<p>2. Organize it to be useful<p>3. Analyze and prioritize customer problems<p>4. Use your feedback to validate problems and solutions directly with customers<p>5. Communicate status to your team<p>6. Close the loop with customers when you build their requests<p>At the early stages you can do this with a spreadsheet or Trello board. Eventually you&#x27;ll graduate to a tool or in-house solution.<p>Here&#x27;s a piece that dives into the details about how to build your own system to collect and organize feedback so you can eliminate bias and drive product decisions based on data:<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.savio.io&#x2F;blog&#x2F;product-leaders-guide-customer-feedback&#x2F;#what-does-a-good-feedback-system-look-like" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.savio.io&#x2F;blog&#x2F;product-leaders-guide-customer-fee...</a>
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veesahni超过 4 年前
We went all-in on Enchant [0] with a set of screen mockups and potential users telling us that it was exactly what they needed.<p>That didn&#x27;t work out so well.<p>It wasn&#x27;t what they needed.<p>They didn&#x27;t buy the product.<p>But we kept talking to those users and understanding what they thought they were getting and the problems they were hoping to solve. Those conversations gave us a better idea of what would work and helped build a realistic roadmap.<p>Executing on that roadmap has worked for us. We continue to evolve that roadmap based on customer demand - When somebody asks for something that&#x27;s on our roadmap, we count their vote.. and generally prioritize work in order of demand.<p>So ya, talk to your users... it&#x27;s not about what they ask you build, but what problems they&#x27;re trying to solve.<p>0: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.enchant.com" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.enchant.com</a> - shared inboxes, knowledge bases, live chat.
gfodor超过 4 年前
Advice like this is fantastic, but I hate when it&#x27;s positioned as the one-true-way to do product development.<p>Consider some of the greatest inventions of all time: the printing press, the telephone, the airplane, the Internet, and the web. Considering the notion that they would have been conceived of this way is absurd, so clearly there&#x27;s more than one way to make something people want.<p>Mix in the fact that contrarians often disrupt things the most, and when you see a <i>process</i> like this that itself has become considered the consensus approach, it seems like a high point of potential leverage to just try a different method, especially if that one has also been proven to work or is more in tune with your own talents, experience, and intuition.
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jeffinpdx超过 4 年前
Sure, we&#x27;ve all known founders who&#x27;ve created products that were successful without talking to potential users, but it&#x27;s very rare. What we&#x27;ve all encountered more often: founders who stubbornly don&#x27;t talk to users as some sort of half-understood adherence to the biography of Steve Jobs. And then their product fails. If they had only tried a different way -- I don&#x27;t know, talk to the people who might pay them? -- they could have avoided complete failure. It&#x27;s not as glamorous as magically stumbling on a good idea, perhaps, and requires extra work, but it&#x27;s often a more viable path for most of us.
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julienreszka超过 4 年前
&quot;the greatest teacher failure is&quot; Demonstrably false and wrong. <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.weforum.org&#x2F;agenda&#x2F;2019&#x2F;11&#x2F;success-failures-learning&#x2F;#:~:text=Contrary%20to%20common%20beliefs%20about,opposite%3A%20It%20undermined%20learning.%E2%80%9D" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.weforum.org&#x2F;agenda&#x2F;2019&#x2F;11&#x2F;success-failures-lear...</a><p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.futurity.org&#x2F;learning-from-failure-2196272&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.futurity.org&#x2F;learning-from-failure-2196272&#x2F;</a>
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chiefalchemist超过 4 年前
&gt; I had listened to what they said — exactly as they said it, but I did not realize until much later that I failed to actually understand what they meant.<p>Two things come to mind:<p>1) Wants are not needs. To pun Ford a bit, &quot;I want a bigger, faster more reliable horse to get to work. Something safer for my family&quot; is what the clearly stated want is. Remove horse and you&#x27;re at root need. The Need. Too often, The Need is never distilled from the want.<p>2) In Covey&#x27;s classic book &quot;7 Habits of Highly Effective People&quot; he says something along the lines of: Seek first to understand, then be understood.<p>Yes, listen with intent. But before you write a single line of code, draw - yes, free-hand - a prototype of (what you think) you heard and share it with the other person - the user, the customer, even a colleague.<p>Never assume. Never assume a want is The Need. Never assume you understand until you&#x27;ve vetted that understanding.
kungfukenny超过 4 年前
Solid post. Any advice for a founder on how to start engaging with users after a few years of _not_ doing that? Luckily we&#x27;ve had success despite our inability to get user feedback, but obviously we need to do better.
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tminima超过 4 年前
This sounds very similar to what Design Thinking suggests. Connect with your (potential) customers to get their habits and preferences so you&#x27;ve more ideas and then prototype them through mockups or small models and once you&#x27;ve the feedback from the customers, decide to either go ahead with the version 2, pivot it, or shelf it.<p>Design thinking talks about being empathetic to your users&#x2F;customers. Which also sounds like the essence of this post.<p>Thanks for writing it.
nathias超过 4 年前
&quot;Your ideas are not nearly as important as your process — and the best process starts with understanding what the customers you wish to serve already do to solve their problems today and even more importantly, understanding why.&quot;<p>Ideas matter, if your ideas do not include a reflection of current ways people are solving problems you have bad ideas and would be better off thinking and researching before talking to anyone.
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coderdd超过 4 年前
I like how the subtle repetition of using the word &quot;gain&quot; programs the mind to associate to grain.
Hendrixer超过 4 年前
Great read for any founder of a company from the early stages to beyond.
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dmarlow超过 4 年前
Hey Mike, great article and congrats on grain. Crazy how time has passed ;)
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