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Visa and MasterCard ban Pornhub over abusive videos

47 点作者 admiralspoo超过 4 年前

12 条评论

dang超过 4 年前
<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=25378155" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=25378155</a>
mschuster91超过 4 年前
A sad move in the end, a situation that is neither as black nor as white as the participants involved try to frame it.<p>Yes: Pornhub had a massive problem, not with child depictions, but with &quot;revenge porn&quot; and similar materials. They <i>definitely</i> needed a slap on the wrist for that one.<p>But... this is not about children, not about &quot;revenge porn&quot;. This is part of an organized, fundamentalist-Evangelical-Christian anti-sex-work campaign that goes back many years (<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;theconversation.com&#x2F;evangelical-women-are-shaping-public-attitudes-about-sex-work-89129" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;theconversation.com&#x2F;evangelical-women-are-shaping-pu...</a>), whose biggest successes to date were FOSTA&#x2F;SESTA, and (in countries where prostitution is legal) who uses the current Coronavirus crisis to further calls for banning brothels and other sex work indefinitely.<p>Make no mistake: the ones suffering at the moment are <i>not</i> the people behind Pornhub&#x2F;Mindgeek. The ones suffering are the countless content creators that already had their lives screwed when Coronavirus restrictions made face-to-face sex work impossible, and now the biggest platform got hit with a payment cutoff. <i>And this is intentional</i>.
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totony超过 4 年前
Pornhub has always had trouble with payment processors. They even had to make their own stripe.<p>Porn is so ill viewed that this is hardly a surprise. Plenty of disgusting content is published to most user-generated content platform, yet the easy target is always porn. The old &quot;protect the children&quot; used yet again for some dubious purposes.
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lucasyvas超过 4 年前
Perhaps the killer app for cryptocurrency will be paid porn? Might be a stretch, but it&#x27;s hard content to moderate and the demand for it is huge.
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dredmorbius超过 4 年前
Nicholas Kristof&#x27;s NYT article and HN discusion, from 6 days ago.<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.nytimes.com&#x2F;2020&#x2F;12&#x2F;04&#x2F;opinion&#x2F;sunday&#x2F;pornhub-rape-trafficking.html" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.nytimes.com&#x2F;2020&#x2F;12&#x2F;04&#x2F;opinion&#x2F;sunday&#x2F;pornhub-ra...</a><p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=25301913" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=25301913</a>
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jobigoud超过 4 年前
Can someone explain what do payment processors gain by this? Do they gain new clients that were against the banned business? Is it PR related to moral panic? Is it because of chargebacks? What do they risk business wise by not banning them?
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playcache超过 4 年前
People pay for porn?
t0mbstone超过 4 年前
And of course this happens shortly after all those people bought &quot;lifetime&quot; accounts with pornhub premium on Black Friday... Only for Pornhub to essentially have the writing on the wall for going out of business.
RoyTyrell超过 4 年前
I&#x27;m guessing that unless they can reverse the decision of Visa and MC, either they&#x27;ll have to transition to an ad-only model or they&#x27;ll soon be going out of business.
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underseacables超过 4 年前
I mean this in all seriousness: it amazes me that people still pay for pornography these days.
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darig超过 4 年前
The same thing happened to me, but the only difference was I didn&#x27;t do anything close to illegal. In the late 90s I made a massively multiplayer online drug dealing game. At its peak there were about 3M daily active users. I went through a few shared hosting companies as I learned to optimize and scale the stack. One of them cut me off, stole all the source code, and launched their own copy of the game. I couldn&#x27;t afford to bring legal action against them. Eventually I had my own co-located servers in one of google&#x27;s old datacenters in San Jose, and had everything humming smooth. The game was free, but I charged $1&#x2F;mo for &quot;premium&quot; features that basically just let you skin your character or start a gang. No &quot;pay to win&quot; stuff... just gravy. I had direct payments from Visa and Mastercard, as well as PayPal that included Discover and AmEx I think.<p>I got accused of running an actual drug marketplace. The DEA contacted me to let me know they were alerted of the claims, but after an investigation determined (fairly obviously) that it was just a game, and let me know that they enjoyed it, and many of the agents in their office were actively playing. A month later PayPal cut me off, seized all of my funds (that I have still not gotten back), and shortly after that my direct merchant accounts with Visa and MasterCard were cut off. Lesson learned. America&#x27;s financial institutions are corrupt.
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billo-ollib超过 4 年前
Will this lead to the rise of crypto as a proper currency as opposed to a gold-like investment vehicle?
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