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Apple Silicon M1 Die-Shots

185 点作者 stefanhoelzl超过 4 年前

12 条评论

dismalpedigree超过 4 年前
I work at TechInsights.<p>Depending on what the community is looking to know, there may be some things we can share publicly. I’m in the software group and not intimately involved with the RE parts, but I will act as an ambassador and see if I can get the right people involved.<p>Throw some comments on this thread and we’ll see what we can do to help. Might be next week due to holidays.
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joakleaf超过 4 年前
I wonder what they&#x27;ll do for &quot;M1X&quot; and pro-machines?<p>Seems like heat isn&#x27;t an issue, so can they increase the clock-speed of the M1?<p>And will they create a larger die with 2xGPU and 2xCPUs, or will they &quot;stitch&quot; multiple M1 dies together on one package to have a higher yield and reduce supply chain concerns?<p>An M1X with 2xGPU will bring it to Radeon 5500M level which is what I have in my current 16&quot;, but still not quite to Nvidia 1080 level.<p>So they&#x27;ll definitely need a more powerful GPU for the pro-users. I wonder if they can make a 4xGPU, or if the yield will become poor as the die size increases. Maybe they&#x27;ll have to do a discrete GPU, but that doesn&#x27;t seem to match their current trajectory.<p>And then there have been &quot;leaks&quot; (rumors, really) about an 32xcore M1-family CPU, but I imagine the yield of such a beast would be horrible, with all the other SOC components on the same die. Especially, if they put a 32xcore GPU on the same die.
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xet7超过 4 年前
Techinsights page returns error.<p>Archive.org seems to work:<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;web.archive.org&#x2F;web&#x2F;20201227010504&#x2F;https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.techinsights.com&#x2F;blog&#x2F;two-new-apple-socs-two-market-events-apple-a14-and-m1" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;web.archive.org&#x2F;web&#x2F;20201227010504&#x2F;https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.techi...</a>
dilippkumar超过 4 年前
How does one identify which regions of a die-shot is the CPU or GPU? Are the structures on silicon easily recognizable from such pictures?<p>How far can someone with time and money go towards reverse engineering a chip from such pictures?
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kbumsik超过 4 年前
Interesting to see the CPU isn&#x27;t actually that big in the chip. What are the uncommented parts? Maybe peripheral interfaces?
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Waterluvian超过 4 年前
What&#x27;s all the stuff that isn&#x27;t annotated with a yellow rectangle?
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kharak超过 4 年前
Can someone explain to me, what the term &quot;bionic&quot; means in this context? How is the chip derived from nature &#x2F; natural systems?
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commandpaul超过 4 年前
Does anyone know if its possible&#x2F; tried to do ram upgrades with higher capacity chips by replacing the dram like one does in the newer chip stacked iphones?
FartyMcFarter超过 4 年前
What is a &quot;system cache&quot; ? Is that an L3 cache?
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JohnJamesRambo超过 4 年前
Can we step back and marvel at the absurdity that one of the most powerful CPUs ever created was for a phone?
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segfaultbuserr超过 4 年前
Only a die-shot, it&#x27;s disappointing that there&#x27;s no comment or explanation. But the website advertises:<p>&gt; <i>A DFR report will be available to TechInsights subscribers on Apple&#x27;s M1 disruptive chip architecture in January 2021.</i><p>So I assume the actual write-up is still a work-in-progress. Perhaps we just need to be patient and come back a month later.
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systemvoltage超过 4 年前
Kind of sad to think about this - Why does marketing dept not actually show these and instead put up a cartoonized version of Apple&#x27;s chips [1]? That&#x27;s in every keynote. This is a rhetorical question, the real mystery is why does an average consumer want to see unreal things to convince them its cooler&#x2F;better? You&#x27;d think seeing actual die shots would be more convincing to average consumer, but they love marketing that&#x27;s untruthful, fake and exaggerated. Not the fault of the marketing department. This is what consumers want and this is what sells. Sad to think how shiny things sell and the whole luxury industry in general.<p>[1] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.apple.com&#x2F;v&#x2F;mac&#x2F;m1&#x2F;a&#x2F;images&#x2F;overview&#x2F;chip_cpu__dg71gt6zecya_large_2x.jpg" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.apple.com&#x2F;v&#x2F;mac&#x2F;m1&#x2F;a&#x2F;images&#x2F;overview&#x2F;chip_cpu__d...</a>
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