Other more active discussion from yesterday:<p><a href="https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25629774" rel="nofollow">https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25629774</a><p>and today:<p><a href="https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25636045" rel="nofollow">https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25636045</a><p><a href="https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25640501" rel="nofollow">https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25640501</a>