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American Apathy: Our Declining Interest in Covid-19 Cases and Deaths

57 点作者 amoorthy超过 4 年前

22 条评论

polka_haunts_us超过 4 年前
I&#x27;m just some guy, I wear a mask outside, I socially distance, all my friends and family do the same. Why EXACTLY am I supposed to continue to care about case numbers or death numbers? Am I supposed to be taking action here? Marching in the street? Arguing for hours on end with random strangers online who have already made up their mind in the contrary? Buying a gun and shooting someone for the greater good?<p>At some point, everyone made up their mind, made their plans, voted for their politicians, what is the point of continuing to spin the wheels on this one?
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throwarayes超过 4 年前
I question the supposition. We are interested. Since November, many I know went from occasionally seeing friends outside socially distant to keeping to themselves. People don’t need to google about it, we know it’s bad. Of courses search metrics will decline.<p>Emotionally, I think we feel defeated. We’re counting down the days till a functional government can be put in place and forestall disaster. It feels like everyday we need to wait causes more needless death. But sadly there’s little we can do about this.
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cwhiz超过 4 年前
News organizations bombard us with negative coverage 24&#x2F;7 for months on end. Endless wall to wall coverage.<p>And now journalists are writing about American apathy.<p>Give me a break. The front page of virtually every major news site is littered with Covid data. On an individual level, what more do you want from me? I wear a mask, haven&#x27;t visited elderly relatives, haven&#x27;t traveled much, etc.<p>It feels like journalists and news organization can only survive on constant outrage. And if we aren&#x27;t outraged enough, they still complain.
corby超过 4 年前
Idiotic article with horrible conclusions. I stopped searching for COVID because I don&#x27;t have to. Every page I visit, every news site I load, has COVID numbers and news at the top of the page. It&#x27;s thrown in our face every where. Even the google home page has a COVID link. I&#x27;m not apathetic at all, idiot. I&#x27;m overloaded with COVID info and numbers and death, I can&#x27;t escape it.
JoeyBananas超过 4 年前
I believe a lot of the things that got cancelled due to covid-19 didn&#x27;t really need to be. There is somewhat of a cult centered around shutting everything down without any sense of nuance. Not enough respect has been given to the ability of people to decide for themselves what is in their best interests.
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benjohnson超过 4 年前
My apathy wore out once N95 masks became cheap and available - Costco will ship them to your door for $2.70 each.<p>I wear N95 all the time in public, and if you don’t want to get this or spread it, it’s basically entirely in your power.<p>The only excuse is that someone is mentally deficient or almost unable to draw breath.
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guscost超过 4 年前
Think it has something to do with the ubiquitous breakdown of mental health, leading to cultural war and inevitable cultural Balkanization, at a minimum?
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ballenf超过 4 年前
&gt; humans have a hard time comprehending large numbers ... the difference between no one dying and one person dying is quite large, but the difference between the 100th and 101st death is far less impactful.<p>I think this data illustrates the exact opposite of what the researchers claim: people are actually pretty good at intuiting danger. A new danger that&#x27;s never been seen is worthy of attention in a way that the 101st death is not.<p>There&#x27;s plenty of studies about the ways humans fail at assessing risk, I just think the above is not one of them.<p>Also, news is just one type of item on everyone&#x27;s data feed that&#x27;s mixed with fake IG posts, fake news and dishonest ads. That approach makes as much sense as buying your groceries at the sewage treatment plant.
pelasaco超过 4 年前
IMO what the author call &quot;Apathy&quot; we call &quot;focus in trying to survive&quot; and &quot;accepting the new normal&quot;. That&#x27;s exactly the same feeling and reaction that people living in Syria and Iraq have after living years in a War environment.
mikem170超过 4 年前
Some people look at the science and numbers, and aren&#x27;t that worried about it. Nothing to do with politics. Death rates have just passed 1 in 1000 people, skewing older and with co-morbidities. Double or triple that and this should burn itself out [0]. For a lot of people that is not enough risk to justify wanting to upend their lives for a year or two. New diseases are part of nature.<p>[0] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.statnews.com&#x2F;2020&#x2F;02&#x2F;04&#x2F;two-scenarios-if-new-coronavirus-isnt-contained&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.statnews.com&#x2F;2020&#x2F;02&#x2F;04&#x2F;two-scenarios-if-new-cor...</a>
bokohut超过 4 年前
Regardless of the topic is this not how interest in any such time duration based event works on the human level? Given everything in the world is now perceived as &quot;real-time&quot; most can only consume so much before having no more interest for any such topic. Foregoing listing other time duration based current events here, of which globally there are many, could it also be stated that people are showing &#x27;fatigue&#x27; for several other major issues as well? A separate topic which comes to my mind and is applicable to what I stated above is that of cybersecurity.
klmadfejno超过 4 年前
Eh, count me in those stats I guess. I don&#x27;t know if apathy is the right term though. I searched for stats fairly frequently but not anymore. We have a vaccine, the story isn&#x27;t likely to change much for a while. I will continue distancing in relative isolation which has kept me from getting ill for a year now. Maybe it won&#x27;t in the next few months, but I kind of doubt it.<p>What exactly would I learn from searching about the latest COVID death stats? We&#x27;re beyond the point of arguing with others about on takes on it. It&#x27;s no longer a political issue of paramount importance.<p>Things are likely to get worse for a month or two and then gradually get significantly better.
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tathougies超过 4 年前
It&#x27;s not surprising, and it&#x27;s disingenuous to accuse people of apathy. In several flu seasons, hospitals have been overwhelmed, tent beds set up, etc, and most people don&#x27;t care because the flu is &#x27;normal&#x27;. COVID is becoming &#x27;normal&#x27;, which is good, because it&#x27;s not going away, so we all need to learn to deal with it.<p>This is like accusing those in the 50s for being apathetic about polio, because they didn&#x27;t upend their entire life to protect their children from this incredibly deadly and disfiguring disease. When humans are confronted with a problem they simply cannot meaningfully prevent, they tend to ignore it and get on with their lives.
avgDev超过 4 年前
Everyone is tired of COVID. I stopped looking at the numbers daily, but still take a look at least once a week.<p>We have a baby, it is hard to see doctors&#x2F;dentists as we don&#x27;t want to take him there. We never go to stores together and someone needs to watch him. Daycare doesn&#x27;t seem safe yet for us, so we are doing our best.<p>Majority of parents work, many kids now study from home. This is putting an insane pressure on the parents.<p>I&#x27;m not suffering from &quot;psychic numbing&quot;, by now I know the risks, I am just TIRED physically and mentally. What else can an average citizen do? Distance, wear a mask, suck it up and wait for your turn to get a vaccine. Searching COVID daily does nothing.
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jibbit超过 4 年前
Out of interest, how much general awareness is there that a more infectious strain is now the dominant version in the Uk, and the situation is likely to get significantly worse in the US quite quickly?
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rhacker超过 4 年前
Well, all I can say is to the people about 6 months ago (on hacker news) that said the death rate was now under control because of things we were doing. I told you so. It was the natural vitamin D that helped during the summer.<p>All we can do now is try to encourage doctors and hospitals to start administering cholecalciferol at large bolus doses.<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;vitamin-d-covid.shotwell.ca&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;vitamin-d-covid.shotwell.ca&#x2F;</a>
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grecy超过 4 年前
It&#x27;s hard to grasp the fact 4,000 Americas are dying each and every day from COVID.<p>When 3,000 died in 9&#x2F;11 it was an outrage, but now it&#x27;s more than that each and every day and everyone has become numb to it.
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rubycon22超过 4 年前
Yes, I am almost totally apathetic after being forced to sacrifice myself to protect the very same class&#x2F;group of people who when they were younger, voted for and made the policies that got us into the messes we are in today (climate change, unaffordable homes&#x2F;land, wars, etc.) for their own benefit. I&#x27;m glad Boomer Joe and Mary got to live their last few years together, but also a bit miffed that I and many of my generation <i>have no future</i> to speak of.
rektide超过 4 年前
I think about the Vietnam war, my parents telling me the TV news used to broadcast the names of those who died. On the one hand, it was the first time the nation had the capability to do something like this, &quot;the first televised war&quot;[1]. At the same time I can&#x27;t help but wonder if that was what it took, if that was the only way to get through people&#x27;s me-ness, their smallness, their insular, far apart lives, and to inject some sense of the global massive proportion of what was afoot all around them, that their state was engaged in. The media took the time to attend, to focus the nation on what was happening, with the daily namings, running on and on and on, of lives lost. The media socialized the problem by _paying attention to it,_ in direct tribute to it, to the horrible costs.<p>All these years of this administration, it has been constant relentless merciless assault on our _attention._ We talk about the attention economy? All media has been fixed on the ongoing cavalcade of schlock emitting from 1600 Pennsylvania, non stop lying[2] &amp; affrontery right out of the gate.<p>It makes it hard to sustain any kind of caring or thoughtfulness, when there&#x27;s madcap bedlam &amp; lying deceitful insanity working hand in hand with Senate to both pass incredible executive acts &amp; bring in all kinds of wild completely unqualified public servants. The show keeps changing, breakneck pace of whatever three delusional soul crushing things are going to happen today.<p>We passed the number of US military deaths of the Vietnam war in late April. Heavens, that is so long ago; it feels like we&#x27;d just started this long war then. By July we were up to a death count topping most modern wars excluding WWII[3]. But the slow rolling incremental nature of it, the jaw dropping antics &amp; childishness &amp; lying all about us... it&#x27;s been hard. Real hard. I don&#x27;t want to tell us to chin up, carry on, because this is dark days, dark material, truly a national disaster of the grandest scale. But with context, I understand some of why this our interests have not been as rapt &amp; focused as they might have been.<p>[1] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;prologue.blogs.archives.gov&#x2F;2018&#x2F;01&#x2F;25&#x2F;vietnam-the-first-television-war&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;prologue.blogs.archives.gov&#x2F;2018&#x2F;01&#x2F;25&#x2F;vietnam-the-f...</a><p>[2] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.washingtonpost.com&#x2F;politics&#x2F;2020&#x2F;07&#x2F;13&#x2F;president-trump-has-made-more-than-20000-false-or-misleading-claims&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.washingtonpost.com&#x2F;politics&#x2F;2020&#x2F;07&#x2F;13&#x2F;president...</a><p>[3] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.usatoday.com&#x2F;story&#x2F;news&#x2F;factcheck&#x2F;2020&#x2F;07&#x2F;30&#x2F;fact-check-us-covid-19-deaths-surpass-combat-fatalities-many-wars&#x2F;5535450002&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.usatoday.com&#x2F;story&#x2F;news&#x2F;factcheck&#x2F;2020&#x2F;07&#x2F;30&#x2F;fac...</a>
meekmockmook超过 4 年前
It&#x27;s not apathy, it&#x27;s fatigue. It&#x27;s been 10 months of terror and horror and people use whatever mental tricks they can to stay sane.
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JIBitator超过 4 年前
&quot;Covid-19&quot; doesn&#x27;t exist. That&#x27;s why there is not much interest.
coding123超过 4 年前
Can you imagine the thoughts going on in these people on their death beds. Fully aware there is a vaccine and there&#x27;s nothing that can help them now, if only someone had thought of THEM, helping THEM. I know this doesn&#x27;t really help anything. It&#x27;s just super sad. I do feel it daily.<p>Unfortunately too part of the problem is so little actually helpful information is being distributed. What your average Joe hears is<p>1. death count - useful.<p>2. Vaccine - useful up to a point - they won&#x27;t be able to get it for a while.<p>3. Wear a mask - useful.<p>I think beyond this we need to make sure people know that:<p>1. Most cases are because of contact with asymptomatic people (AND Before that one HN person replies with that doesn&#x27;t exist - it absolutely does - antibody tests are also confirming this)<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.cnn.com&#x2F;2020&#x2F;11&#x2F;20&#x2F;health&#x2F;cdc-coronavirus-spread-asymptomatic-website-wellness&#x2F;index.html" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.cnn.com&#x2F;2020&#x2F;11&#x2F;20&#x2F;health&#x2F;cdc-coronavirus-spread...</a><p>2. Vitamin D is NOT your Trump conspiracy cure. It actually works and is backed up by 2 gold standard studies. We don&#x27;t have more research in this area because no one is funding it. There are many other studies (not randomized&#x2F;placebo) but ones looking at old people that were already previously taking vitamin D (because of their existing regimen before the pandemic) with massively better outcomes. Someone posted this link that does a nice job summarizing:<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;vitamin-d-covid.shotwell.ca&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;vitamin-d-covid.shotwell.ca&#x2F;</a>
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