AWS repeatedly warned Parler about posts urging murder

Maybe it&#x27;s just me, but I got really surprised when it was &quot;revealed&quot; that Parler was using AWS.<p>Creating a public forum marketed towards &quot;free speech&quot; seems to me to fall into roughly the same category as a torrent tracker or other file sharing service. Not exactly illegal (maybe), but definitely not something that the cloud providers want to be associated with.<p>In Sweden we have Flashback.org, an old school PHPBB&#x2F;vBulletin-looking forum with a very strong free speech stance (attracting all kind of people, including those you can imagine being enticed by those rules). It&#x27;s of course not hosted on any cloud plattform, or using services from any big hip tech company.<p>Honestly it seems like a strange misstake for them to do, if you are dealing in one of these gray areas, you should probably find some hosting provider &#x2F; ISP actually interested in hosting you and just do it yourself.

It&#x27;s worth pointing out the offensive content cited in the document:<p>* “Fry’em up. The whole fkn crew. #pelosi #aoc #thesquad #soros #gates #chuckschumer #hrc #obama #adamschiff #blm #antifa we are coming for you and you will know it.”<p>* “#JackDorsey ... you will die a bloody death alongside Mark Suckerturd [Zuckerberg].... It has been decided and plans are being put in place. Remember the photographs inside your home while you slept? Yes, that close. You will die a sudden death!”<p>* “We are going to fight in a civil War on Jan.20th, Form MILITIAS now and acquire targets.”<p>* “On January 20th we need to start systematicly [sic] assassinating [sic] #liberal leaders, liberal activists, #blm leaders and supporters, members of the #nba #nfl #mlb #nhl #mainstreammedia anchors and correspondents and #antifa. I already have a news worthy event planned.”<p>* “Shoot the police that protect these shitbag senators right in the head then make the senator grovel a bit before capping they ass.”<p>* “After the firing squads are done with the politicians the teachers are next.”<p>* “Death to @zuckerberg @realjeffbezos @jackdorsey @pichai.”<p>* “White people need to ignite their racial identity and rain down suffering and death like a hurricane upon zionists.”<p>* “Put a target on these motherless trash [Antifa] they aren’t human taking one out would be like stepping on a roach no different.”<p>* “We need to act like our forefathers did Kill [Black and Jewish people] all Leave no victims or survivors.”<p>* “We are coming with our list we know where you live we know who you are and we are coming for you and it starts on the 6th civil war... Lol if you will think it’s a joke... Enjoy your last few days you have.”<p>* “This bitch [Stacey Abrams] will be good target practice for our beginners.”<p>* “This cu* [United States Secretary of Transportation Elaine Chao] should be... hung for betraying their country.”<p>* “Hang this mofo [Georgia Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger] today.”<p>* “HANG THAt N*** ASAP”<p>It&#x27;s indefensible.

Resolved URL because something in my adblocker keeps me from being forwarded, UTM tags removed:<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.courtlistener.com&#x2F;recap&#x2F;gov.uscourts.wawd.294664&#x2F;gov.uscourts.wawd.294664.10.0_1.pdf" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.courtlistener.com&#x2F;recap&#x2F;gov.uscourts.wawd.294664...</a><p>Mods can add a [.pdf] in title, perhaps. :)

I am not on Twitter, but wasn&#x27;t #HangMikePence trending a few days ago? Isn&#x27;t it a bit hypocritical when one of the biggest social network is allowed to do the same thing?

This is why we can&#x27;t have nice things.<p>Not sure why people insist on posting comments like those identified. If you were publicly identified as making those comments, you would definitely be at risk of losing friends&#x2F;jobs etc.<p>But that said, Parler isn&#x27;t alone in their issue with inappropriate comments.

Lots of weird stuff in there, Amazon says Parler is suspended, but not terminated, but then says it will preserve data and help with migration. Which is it? Does Parler have a path to removing the suspension?<p>Additionally, Amazon says Parler does moderate and remove content, but not with a sense of urgency. How does Amazon define this sense of urgency? Parler was suspended because it wasn&#x27;t quick enough to remove posts all while trying to manage 12 million users, 2.3 million DAU, and have explosive growth. Is a backlog of 26000 reports really a large number?

It seemed to my unaided eye that the only reasonable point in the lawsuit from Parler was that they were given 30ish hours notice and the contract required 30 days.<p>AWS have addressed that point.

All AWS&#x2F;GCP&#x2F;Azure is tell you guys: build you damn infrastructure, learn how to install software and configure you routes.<p>If this is not clear, I do not know what is.

So “Big Tech” is in the spotlight for suppressing speech explicitly.<p>Meanwhile, traditional media implicitly aligns minds to defend Democrat&#x2F;Republican duopoly, who in turn protect American aristocratic power, lest those poor billionaires suffer humiliating figurative death.<p>I do not really see the “I was hear first so I won for life.” as fostering open debate.

Why is this topic flagged, when so (so) many on the same subject that didn&#x27;t present evidence of Parler&#x27;s crimes hit the front page?

Editorialized title. Link is to the response Amazon filed yesterday to Parler&#x27;s law suit.<p>That said, yeah. I don&#x27;t know why people are screaming so hard about censorship when the simple truth is that this was an attempt to retroactively apply moderation to a community that had verifiably gotten out of control, at a moment where it was clear that many of these threats were real and not just rhetoric.

Leaving aside the discution regarding the monopoly position of AMAZON (or other technology companies), I wonder if the PARLER situation would not have been the same if it had gone to any other company offering the same services and used a pre-ownership platform. If they had developed their own stack, wouldn&#x27;t their flexibility have been greater?

AWS should have no responsibilities on what is on the platform and it is also not taking all the responsibilities, so it should not pretend taking one.<p>That is totally legal process&#x27;s role. Anyone hope a A decide what B should do for C is just not understanding the dynamics in human society.

I struggle to understand how it is not a way to remove a competitor and move the spotlight from those companies doing a good deed vs the black duck being parler.<p>Twitter let ISIS terrorists post beadings and murders on its platform. A simple search on any racial keyword will show plenty of hatred that is everywhere on its platform. Facebook, not even talking about what they do, the way they use data, advertise, and leave content that is racist&#x2F;dangerous.<p>And now that parler jumps in without the $ of twitter and facebook and the process&#x2F;software that took years for a FB to be able delete violent content then we censor them from the outside?<p>How about we censor google for doing business with china and promoting censorship? Id say that is a good enough argument for the US governement to nationalize google and remove them from their monopoly.