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Linux Running on Apple M1

378 点作者 ig0r0超过 4 年前

22 条评论

midrus超过 4 年前
Linux might run, but good luck with the drivers. And good luck with it keeping working with future upgrades of both, hardware and software. Heck, even today it is pretty difficult to get things working reliably unless it is a thinkpad or some other Linux friendly brand.<p>A Mac with subpar support for a webcam, energy saving, suspend&#x2F;resume, the trackpad, brightness&#x2F;volume controls, etc is not a laptop, it&#x27;s an expensive paperweight.<p>In my opinion, other than doing it for the sake of learning and the challenge of it, this will lead nowhere in the long term unless you get any kind of commitment or support from Apple. And I hope I&#x27;m wrong but that&#x27;s very, very unlikely to happen any time soon.
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viraptor超过 4 年前
There&#x27;s a bit of competition now going between asahi and corellium. While most of the spicy tweets have been removed, there&#x27;s a summary <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;twitter.com&#x2F;AsahiLinux&#x2F;status&#x2F;1350547056679477250" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;twitter.com&#x2F;AsahiLinux&#x2F;status&#x2F;1350547056679477250</a><p>Essentially, while this project may be quicker to get visible results, they may not be able to release all the code kosher for merging upstream. It will be interesting to see the next steps.
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vespakoen超过 4 年前
marcan, who is working on AsahiLinux, is streaming at this time of writing and just got the framebuffer working, this is one of the most interesting live-code-streams I have seen.<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=GxnWuXgj3JI" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=GxnWuXgj3JI</a>
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jcstryker超过 4 年前
Love to see the competition between the projects trying to get linux running on the m1. Though I think they will hit a wall trying to enable GPU support.<p>I think opening up just enough to enable this effort also serves as some good nerd marketing for Apple. This race keeps the m1 in the news regularly, giving hope to those who want a low-power and performant ARM machine that wouldn&#x27;t otherwise consider an apple machine.
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rvz超过 4 年前
Great progress already thanks to Corellium for the M1 linux projects [0][1], the PongoOS project and to all others involved.<p>Getting GPU acceleration is <i>now</i> the real challenge.<p>[0] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;corellium&#x2F;preloader-m1" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;corellium&#x2F;preloader-m1</a><p>[1] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;corellium&#x2F;linux-m1" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;corellium&#x2F;linux-m1</a>
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exikyut超过 4 年前
(Waiting for page to load) &quot;Nice, so they finally got a kernel to boot. I wonder what fancy way they&#x27;ll be showing the dmesg infor--&quot;<p>&quot;Oh.&quot;<p>I think I need to recalibrate my idea of a 10x developer...<p>(The standard would seem to have ratcheted up somewhat as the years have gone by!)
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thomasfl超过 4 年前
A Raspberry Pi powered by something similar to the M1 or A14 bionic processor would be something. The Broadcom 1.5 GHz 64-bit quad-core ARM Cortex-A72 that powers the latest raspberry pi, is nothing compared to the new processor beasts from Apple.
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saagarjha超过 4 年前
This was quite fast considering that Apple opened up booting custom objects sometime last week…it seems to still be software rendering for now, but it&#x27;s good to see this progressing so quickly. It seems that there is effort being put into upstreaming this too (despite a couple of unfortunately hitches :&#x2F;) so we might be seeing this ready for general-purpose use quite soon!
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acomjean超过 4 年前
I understand there is a thing with trying to run Linux everywhere, and it’s a fun exercise.<p>Even if Apple does do some open source support, Even if that hardware isn’t quite as nice, I prefer to buy&#x2F;support hardware and vendors that support Linux at this point.
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mprev超过 4 年前
I hadn&#x27;t thought about Yellow Dog Linux in years until seeing this. Discontinued in 2012, which is understandable after Apple&#x27;s switch to Intel.
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ianai超过 4 年前
I wonder whether linux could benefit from the specific architecture changes of the M1. Apple&#x27;s made a big technical claim of the hardware acceleration of reference counting - another OS and toolchain optimizing around it to any extent would test their claims.<p>This both reads a little overly optimistic to me knowing how proprietary things are - but linux and foss software have history of running on all manner of platforms. Arguments based on: &quot;you can only get a client machine with at max 16 gig of ram&quot; or &quot;you can&#x27;t plunk an M1 into a server chassis with all the hardware you need&quot; and so on may be various amounts of preliminary (we only have 1 chip from them yet and it&#x27;s clearly a &#x27;first out the door&#x27; type near-beta) to actually relevant.
uncledave超过 4 年前
That is some insanely fast progress. Well done and hats off to all involved.
laktak超过 4 年前
This is cool but technically I&#x27;d say it would need to use the disk in the Mac to be running &quot;on&quot; the Mac.
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uberduper超过 4 年前
Until I have a post-EOL OS option for an M1 mac, I&#x27;m not buying.
BrawnLongHaul超过 4 年前
Can I have a Beowulf cluster of those? (yes, I am a grey haired BOFH)
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CivBase超过 4 年前
I&#x27;m excited for Linux support on the M1. I don&#x27;t even have a Mac Book, but more incentive for Linux apps to support ARM is a good thing.
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nedsma超过 4 年前
Any information on battery life?
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titzer超过 4 年前
Qemu is also several kinds of broken on M1.<p>I was able to get qemu to boot an x86 Linux after applying a huge pile of patches I found on a forum.<p>If you are expecting to get up and running instantly with a VM to put all of your comfy old software in, not so fast!
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londons_explore超过 4 年前
What&#x27;s DART?
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throwaway22442超过 4 年前
This guy also got pardoned by Trump.<p>Happy to see frame buffer, excited for great linux experience on m1.
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mastrsushi超过 4 年前
I understand someone always has to do this when something new comes out, but God what a waste.
glitchc超过 4 年前
Until the Linux kernel leverages instructions specific to Apple M1&#x27;s extended ISA, this is a waste of time. The whole point of the M1 experience is that out of the box, it&#x27;s fast, silent and runs for days. Yes, Linux will run, as it would run on any ARM processor, but it will be slow, hot and run the battery down in a couple of hours.<p>It will take years for the open-source community to reverse-engineer the ISA and write kernel code that optimally utilizes it. There&#x27;s no shortcut here. Until then, it&#x27;s not worth buying a Mac just to run Linux on it.
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