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We need to throw out a mindblowing amount of science and start again

33 点作者 lemming超过 4 年前

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arein2超过 4 年前
Some time ago corruption was direct. Now a lot of corruption and business is done trough &quot;science&quot;.<p>If any science is related to politics or there is some business&#x2F;financial incentive I just assume it&#x27;s skewed.<p>Take for example the harvard study that is responsible for the US obesity. The study found that sugar does not make you fat, because of food conpanies.<p>Or the guy that discovered the ulcer cause and cure. It was ignored because the fake ulcer treatment industry was a multi billion dollar one.<p>The &quot;I F***g LOVE science&quot; guys that will beleive anything, because SCIENCE are the worst
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robwwilliams超过 4 年前
I have not read the book Science Fictions, but will comment that the core problem in academic science is the intense structural reward of telling “stories” rather than focusing on high quality data generation and robust causal models. A snappy story gets you a paper in Cell, Science, or Nature, a grant award, and promotion. That is the pressure driving many of the distortions.<p>In contrast, a decade-long effort to generate foundational data sets gets you a footnote or acknowledgement. Think Tycho Brahe versus Copernicus.<p>The imperative of generating snappy, and preferably simple series of stories is that scientists focus intensely on reductionist systems and neat little “mechanisms”. To get to mechanism, the modus operandi is to trim away fundamental system complexity. Complex state-dependent feedback systems get converted into sad but comprehensible cartoons. And we are surprised that findings do not replicate? The one phrase that makes me cringe in the biomedical literature is “necessary and sufficient”. In your dreams!<p>Yuri Lazebnik’s wonderful “Can a Biologist Fix a Radio” is a classic commentary published in 2002, well worth reading in this context. “Could a Neuroscientist Understand a Microprocessor” by Eric Jonas and Konrad Kording (2017, PLoS Comp Biology) is the update for all of you on Hacker News.<p>The current structure of science usually does not reward high quality persistent data and metadata. This seems antithetical to what we are usual taught about the scientific method. The reality is that doing data justice has been getting lip service from day 1. I still see little evidence of serious efforts in this regard (genomics being a welcome exception) since the true cost of data preservation and sharing is staggering.<p>A salutary final note from Richard Hamming, that I do not mean in any way as an excuse: “In science, if you know what you are doing, you should not be doing it. In engineering, if you do not know what you are doing, you should not be doing it.”<p>In both cases though high quality data&#x2F;metadata are just as important—perhaps more so, than the big ideas.
peter_d_sherman超过 4 年前
I don&#x27;t agree with everything in this article (I don&#x27;t disagree with everything either), but that being said, I liked the following quoted text:<p>&gt;&quot;By the mid 2000s there was also an extensive body of work on the biology behind the gene’s function and malfunction. And all of this was part of a much wider field of research called candidate gene association studies, a methodology that enjoyed massive media exposure from the early 90s to the late 2000s as biologists identified the genes they claimed were responsible for obesity, mental illness, diabetes, addiction, gambling, cancer, crime, and numerous other behavioural disorders and diseases.<p>This was a golden age for high-profile genetics research. Almost every week brought another announcement that a candidate gene for some social problem or illness had been found. And, these announcements concluded, now that the gene causing the problem was known and the biological nature of the malady identified, a cure was surely close. Grants were funded and biotech companies were launched, billions of dollars were invested and exciting new technologies were trialed, all based on candidate gene discoveries.<p><i>And none of them worked because all of this was bullshit.</i>&quot;
HaoZeke超过 4 年前
An overly click baity title which actually refers to the well known reproducibility crisis. It is also unfair to paint with such a brush. Biology and the medical sciences have always been less exact and more malleable.
YeGoblynQueenne超过 4 年前
&gt;&gt; Which is to say: how much science only looks like science but has no actual truth value because it’s junk science that just hasn’t been debunked yet?<p>I wonder, if every scientific theory that is eventually disproved &quot;only looks like science but has no actualy truth value&quot;, how about Newtonian physics? Was that &quot;junk science that just hadn&#x27;t been debunked&quot; until Einstein and General Relativity?<p>Are all scientists who have followed an avenue of research that didn&#x27;t pan out in the end quacks, pseuds and wackos?<p>Or is there maybe a simpler, more nuanced view that doesn&#x27;t happen to tar every past generation of science with a very offensive brush?
jariel超过 4 年前
I wonder if there is a way to award points for &#x27;effort&#x27; and &#x27;ingenuity&#x27;.<p>Maybe PhDs should be able to give out points there to offset the fact that most experiments aren&#x27;t going to show much.<p>Maybe there&#x27;s a correlation between what we recognize as &#x27;thoughtful experiments&#x27; and &#x27;good outcomes&#x27;.<p>Or just some other measure other than &#x27;non-nill results&#x27; otherwise everyone will be predisposed towards those.
rpiguyshy超过 4 年前
saturated animal fat does not, by itself, cause heart disease.
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rpiguyshy超过 4 年前
vaccines do cause autism, as do regular infections and other forms of stress. these things also cause chronic fatigue syndrome, and the two are intimately related. these diseases and many other well known diseases are all basically the same disease and they will be resolved in what will be known as the &quot;metabolic revolution&quot; in medicine.<p>the reason why the studies done so far have not been able to find a link between vaccines and autism is that they do not take into consideration that other things also cause autism. even though there is a connection between vaccines and autism, vaccines save too many lives for any rational person to want to stop their administration.<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;naviauxlab.ucsd.edu&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;naviauxlab.ucsd.edu&#x2F;</a>
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