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Brave is launching its own search engine with the help of ex-Cliqz devs and tech

173 点作者 quick_brown_fox大约 4 年前

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Zhyl大约 4 年前
For those who missed it, Cliqz did a very in-depth series of blog posts on their tech [0]. Basically, it was &quot;word2vec: The Search Engine&quot;.<p>It was actually very impressive in terms of semantic understanding, but the index was pretty awful. I either got exactly what I was looking for, or no hits at all. I can imagine that they&#x27;d get massive value by focusing on more information-rich natural language sources and de-prioritising images or structured&#x2F;knowledge queries for the time being. Some good partnerships to provide instant answers a-la Duckduckgo&#x27;s goodies would be excellent.<p>I also can&#x27;t express how much better the Brave brand will be for them - even &#x27;Tailcat&#x27; is a much better name. Cliqz sounds too much like an off-brand, gutter ad seller to ever have credibility, and I say that as someone who was fairly impressed with their tech.<p>I am worried that they&#x27;re currently pitching this as a general purpose search engine at the moment when it will be a <i>while</i> before it can even pretend to compete with Google. I would advise for them to find a niche where they can whip Google into next week, and then expand on scope from there.<p>[0] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.0x65.dev&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.0x65.dev&#x2F;</a>
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BitwiseFool大约 4 年前
Can someome please make a search engine that doesn&#x27;t use Natural Language Processing? I just want to enter keywords and get results. No fixating on certain terms in the query and no attempts to specialize or localize my results based on my data. I want an old-school search engine, not a digital assistant&#x2F;answers machine.
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rasengan大约 4 年前
That’s pretty cool. I like Brave, and Brendan and his team are doing great things over there. Brave is absolutely faster than Chrome, and I believe everyone here on HN considers Brendan a hero once they discover what he’s created.<p>The search space absolutely needs more participants which will only help the experience for all internet users worldwide. This is very exciting for the search space.<p>I’m also involved in this space so I wanted to let the Brave team know - if you’re interested in collaborating in any way with Private Search [1] I would love to chat.<p>[1] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;private.sh" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;private.sh</a>
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etr71115大约 4 年前
Here&#x27;s the official blog post:<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;brave.com&#x2F;brave-search&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;brave.com&#x2F;brave-search&#x2F;</a>
justfortechnews大约 4 年前
There&#x27;s a good overview of Brave&#x27;s search engine focus from their team (the former Cliqz team) found in <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.theregister.com&#x2F;2021&#x2F;03&#x2F;03&#x2F;brave_buys_a_search_engine&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.theregister.com&#x2F;2021&#x2F;03&#x2F;03&#x2F;brave_buys_a_search_e...</a><p>Paper on the search engine: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;drive.google.com&#x2F;file&#x2F;d&#x2F;1-B3ZvHpbnxsT2OdnUH8vS3-tvTv8OyQI&#x2F;view" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;drive.google.com&#x2F;file&#x2F;d&#x2F;1-B3ZvHpbnxsT2OdnUH8vS3-tvTv...</a>
gidam大约 4 年前
Brave has a long way to go to build real trust. Too many reckless stuff: hijacking links, suspicious url-rewriting, crypto-token stunts, forgetting to communicate with users about serious privacy leaks with their faulty TOR window... also it looks like they care about privacy only in their PR brochures.
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abhinavsharma大约 4 年前
I think the most interesting idea here is that of Goggles, filters like<p>- trusted product reviews - left biased media&#x2F;right biased media - my cooking sites.<p>This is something we&#x27;ve been doing for a while in Insight (YC W19) (<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;insightbrowser.com&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;insightbrowser.com&#x2F;</a>) and our users really like creating and sharing them. They work on top of Google, DDG or whatever your search engine is. We suggest useful filters as well.<p>It&#x27;s cool to see that idea proliferate — it could be a part of every search&#x2F;browsing experience soon. All modern search engines try and guess intent that that&#x27;s an increasingly difficult guess to get right.
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snug大约 4 年前
Some how Google + Chrome is bad<p>But Brave + Cliqz is good?<p>I thought the whole argument was a browser shouldn&#x27;t be owned by the same company that runs a search engine, or for-profit organization
riston大约 4 年前
I hope to see some more alternatives to Google as the search results provided by Google last six months contain in most of the case some phishing&#x2F;scam sites.<p>Not sure why these pages aren&#x27;t removed from the result lists?
schmorptron大约 4 年前
Super interesting how this will play out. Does anyone have any experience with cliqz? I saw it at a friends place once but never tried it myself. Is it any different from using firefox and duckduckgo?
joshgoldman大约 4 年前
Can we trust Brave?
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