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Using Apple Silicon (M1) as a cloud engineer, two months in

101 点作者 vladaionescu大约 4 年前

18 条评论

smoldesu大约 4 年前
Honestly, I&#x27;m starting to understand Louis Rossman&#x27;s indifference towards these computers. In one of his most recent streams, someone asked him what he thought about the M1 Macs, and he simply responded &quot;it&#x27;s faster than the last computer Apple made&quot;, which summed up a lot of how I feel about it too. I&#x27;m saying this as my M1 Macbook Air sits on a shelf collecting dust a few feet away from me, which is definitely not the fate I wanted for it.<p>I bought the Macbook Air with the intention of using it to replace my aging desktop rig, but was pretty surprised to find that it couldn&#x27;t drive both of my monitors. Now I had to choose between my 1440p monitor which flickered violently when attached to the Macbook, or my 1080p panel which had a much less disturbing pink line in the bottom half of the screen. After a few hours of troubleshooting, I plugged my desktop in and promised that I&#x27;d use the Macbook Air to replace my Thinkpad. At that point though, the value proposition of the computer was so diminished that I couldn&#x27;t really justify using it. I can&#x27;t use my OS of choice on it, I can&#x27;t use my software of choice on it, I can&#x27;t upgrade or fix anything on it, and I can&#x27;t trust the swap to not shred the SSD.<p>Am I missing something here? Time and time again I hear people say &quot;you&#x27;re not the target audience&quot;, and I&#x27;m getting the impression they&#x27;re right.
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djrogers大约 4 年前
&gt; Battery life on the M1 is really really really good - half a day of Zoom meetings + email only took 20% of my battery.<p>This may be the most compelling thing I&#x27;ve read about M1 Macs, and I&#x27;ve read a lot of compelling things...
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barkingcat大约 4 年前
Git going missing is likely to do with macOS updates. Since Apple moved to sealed system partition and &quot;non-diff&quot; os updates, each OS update comes as a unified whole package (often sized in the multiple gigs of data)<p>This wipes out the xcode-select installed git (because instead of &quot;patching&quot; the existing system, it just replaces the whole lot of it with whatever is in the archive). It leaves xcode alone (since that&#x27;s in the Application folder), but any additional xcode command line tools gets wiped out by the OS update, and the system needs that reinstalled.<p>I ran into this with Intel based Macs running the beta 11.3 as well, so it&#x27;s not necessarily an M1 issue.
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sudhirj大约 4 年前
Similar experience here. Doing Rails dev at the moment, Ruby, Go, Jetbrains all work great. Using Postgres.app which still runs on Intel under Rosetta, but works fine. There are some Postgres crashes happening intermittently, not sure if that&#x27;s an emulation problem or the app. Haven&#x27;t tried native ARM Postgres yet, but heard it works great.<p>Apps are being updated pretty quickly, and generally makes for a very snappy machine. Comparable to maxed out Corei9&#x2F;32GB 16&quot;rMBP in performance, but a bit snappier and no fans.
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dolni大约 4 年前
As an outsider looking in, it&#x27;s hard to take this post seriously. There are biases evident, the most glaring of which is the proclamation that &quot;all of my software &#x27;just works&#x27;&quot; followed by a laundry list of software for which beta versions had to be installed in order to be functional at all (including Docker).<p>It&#x27;s frankly surprising to me how many hoops people are willing to jump through to use an Apple machine when Docker, arguably the single most important tool many developers use, is just a crappy experience on that platform (ARM or not).<p>M1 from a hardware perspective is neat, but I am not holding my breath that the rest of the industry is going to move towards ARM for regular old PCs. The only reason M1 is viable _at all_ is because of reasonably fast x86_64 emulation. And that requires special hardware that non-M1 platforms don&#x27;t have. I suspect Apple would jealously guard against any attempt by a competitor to build something similar.
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Shadonototro大约 4 年前
Same here, i&#x27;m loving my M1<p>To the detractors, you better ask your favorite laptop company to step up their game instead of being jealous at apple and M1 in particular<p>PS: i&#x27;m not talking about microsoft people, or maybe i am :D<p>Bonus: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;twitter.com&#x2F;NovallSwift&#x2F;status&#x2F;1356111709602160640" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;twitter.com&#x2F;NovallSwift&#x2F;status&#x2F;1356111709602160640</a>
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tommoor大约 4 年前
Love my M1, but a heads up – if you&#x27;re dependent on Postgres-based tests running inside of Docker (quite a common usecase!) the performance is completely unusable still:<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;docker&#x2F;for-mac&#x2F;issues&#x2F;5236" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;docker&#x2F;for-mac&#x2F;issues&#x2F;5236</a><p>We&#x27;re talking a suite that normally takes 30 seconds taking 10+ minutes.
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drewg123大约 4 年前
I&#x27;m a kernel engineer, focusing on performance. My intel MBP died and i replaced it with an M1 about 6 weeks ago. The M1 has been very handy, since it gave me (via a Qemu VM) a local FreeBSD&#x2F;arm64 native build environment just when I started looking at FreeBSD&#x2F;arm64 performance.<p>The one issue that I have is that Intel Vtune crashes when displaying data collected on our servers.
maxekman大约 4 年前
I kept my old 13&quot; MBP close at hand when moving over to the M1 Air. Turned out I didn&#x27;t need the old MBP hardly for anything. The recent Go 1.16 in Homebrew was the final piece of the puzzle for me. Docker in preview has been really smooth, especially if sticking to ARM images (the performance alone is worth that).
wait_a_minute大约 4 年前
Great post and I have a similar experience. I’ll be buying Apple’s 16” M1X or M2 (whatever they call it) maxxed out on day 1 because I am endlessly impressed with my 13” M1 pro.
rvz大约 4 年前
&gt; I like bleeding-edge technology, and I had to use preview versions of some software, but had no major issues in my typical workflow.<p>Those who are in the music production industry would say otherwise, especially those who like using Ableton Live. They got burned on the &#x27;64 bit-only&#x27; software move from Mojave to Catalina and now they are getting burned again for the hardware move to M1. Not surprised why I see them still running Mojave these days.<p>As for the developer software on M1, I would rather wait until it is optimised for the processor and the software ecosystem fully supports Apple Silicon before making the switch rather than wasting time finding workarounds that &#x27;sort of work&#x27; and ends up breaking in a software update.<p>Until then, no thanks and no deal. (Until M1X or M2 comes out)
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spullara大约 4 年前
I had good luck with the M1 native Azul OpenJDK for my testing.
JoeMayoBot大约 4 年前
Good read for me - just bought a MacBook Pro M1. After years of working on Windows, this is my primary development machine now. Still learning and making adjustments. Doing all JavaScript&#x2F;TypeScript&#x2F;React work in VS Code. Using VS for Mac for .NET work, which is an adjustment, but working so far - they&#x27;re working on better M1 support in the .NET 6 timeframe, which is in preview 1 right now:<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;devblogs.microsoft.com&#x2F;visualstudio&#x2F;visual-studio-2019-for-mac-version-8-9-is-now-available&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;devblogs.microsoft.com&#x2F;visualstudio&#x2F;visual-studio-20...</a>
uncledave大约 4 年前
Pretty impressive outcome after less than 6 months on the market. I’m using mine for dev work but it’s mostly as a terminal at the moment to stuff in AWS. Oh and PyCharm which works perfectly.
RantyDave大约 4 年前
I&#x27;m doing embedded development using an M1 and encountered my first arm&#x2F;x86 related problem yesterday (trying to open an arm dylib from an x86 application didn&#x27;t work).<p>Edit: VSCode Insiders build (referenced elsewhere on this page) is <i>mad</i> fast. Get it!<p>Honestly very impressed with this thing.
CapriciousCptl大约 4 年前
&gt; An issue I ran into with the amd64 version was that I did not realize that the terminal was also an amd64 process...<p>Wow! That’s a huge gotcha that for some reason I didn’t even consider when I was having package issues with numpy among others.
submeta大约 4 年前
For me this sounds like way too many issues, too little time to tackle. I‘ll wait a year or two until I get an M1 based MBP. Didn‘t even install the latest macOS because I see friends having too many issues with their setup.
ksec大约 4 年前
83 Comments has no mention of M1 MacBook SSD Heavy Data Write problem.