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Ask HN: Looking for an engineer/developer "life partner"

7 点作者 jdsadow将近 14 年前
I'm a 23-year old "business type" looking to find a true engineering "life partner;" someone who I can work alongside, identifying innovative concepts that we can experiment with, develop, and build into valuable, meaningful, profitable businesses.<p>I've been working on a start-up concept for about 3 months now and we're really struggling to find the right fit with an engineer. Over time, it's occurred to me that what I'm truly looking for is someone who will take the plunge with many different ideas and really go after things. We're coming up with new concepts on a weekly basis, but have no engineer to gut check against or even build basic models to test out.<p>What I am hoping to find is someone who can be the ultimate partner, OWNING the technical development while working with me to outline &#38; pursue the business opportunities.<p>So here's some more about me:<p>--I think I'm really capable when it comes to identifying opportunities. I believe I have a knack for envisioning innovative products and how they can be delivered to users in a valuable &#38; profitable way.<p>--I am extremely passionate and hard-working. Simply put, I will work as hard as anyone to pursue something I believe in.<p>--I know what I'm not: an engineer. I have some design skill and think I have a strong feel for quality user experience and product development, but I'm not looking for someone to do all my dirty work. I want a partner, in the truest sense of the word. Someone who I can brainstorm ideas with, and then together we can go running with them. Someone who will own the development from vision to code, while we work together to analyze the markets &#38; business angles. We both should exploit our strengths.<p>--I live in SF and am really only looking for someone in the Bay area<p>--I'm a pretty good guy to be around and extremely extremely loyal<p>--I currently work for a top tech company (starts with G and has an OO in it) and have a pretty strong set of people &#38; business skills. I've got a really valuable network that can connect us to investors, other entrepreneurs, and resources we might need.<p>At the end of the day, I've learned a ton talking to other start-up founders, developers, etc. over the last few months. I am absolutely determined not to be some business type who is naive enough to play down the value of an engineer, try to tell them what to do, or think that my "idea" is the valuable part (and not the implementation).<p>If any of the developers out there are looking for this kind of partnership, email me. I'd love to chat, share concepts, talk strategy, and just get a feel for the fit.<p>Thanks all, feel free to comment away and ask any questions you want. E-mail is in my profile.<p>Jon

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dstein将近 14 年前
I just want to point out there seems to be a lot of Winklevoss-types looking Zuckerburg-types these days, basically everywhere. I thought this trend would die down after "The Social Network" came out, but in fact there seems to be even more now. There are so many startups these days precisely because developers have realized they don't need business-people, venture capital, or any of that overhead to grow a business... and this is primarily what's different about today's tech boom/bubble.<p>If your business plan is solid enough you would probably need to prove it, by putting the plan onto paper and begin shopping it around to the VC's and angel investors in SF. You'd need to show a developer that your idea is solid enough that you can obtain funding otherwise I can't think of any reason a developer would join a startup from square one at &#62;50% dilution rather than start his own project.
steventruong将近 14 年前
There are tons of engineers at Google (assuming the hint). Some of which must be entrepreneurial. Why not reach out to those you know first rather than approach strangers? It's one thing for people to not know coders personally or all their friends are already doing something so they have no choice. It's another to be surrounded by engineers and not be able to work with that. Sends a strong signal even if there isn't one.<p>Not to be a dick about this either but most people think they have a knack for "envisioning innovative products and how they can deliver value" but most fail on finding challenges within their own ideas. Of course on the positive side, you're at least willing to hash things out and explore ideas. That said though, you probably need to bring some solid value proposition of which I'm not seeing in the above pitch.
jdsadow将近 14 年前
Thanks for the thoughts everyone. A few responses all around...<p>DStein2: I've been given repeated and direct advise not to pursue funding without a functioning prototype; most important reason is b/c terms are never favorable.<p>I should add that quite a few of the folks we've talked to have been very interested, it's been more that the fit really hasn't quite been right on both sides yet.<p>And if I've learned anything from the engineers, it's that this game is about 5% idea/95% follow-through.<p>Steven: I can't really dive into this but it's just not as simple as you think. Trust me, I wish it were, but employee NDAs and such are major hurdles.<p>Also, I've not ruled out getting a prototype done, but of of the engineers I've talked to (&#62;15) most said they would prefer to be involved from the beginning as opposed to inherit a prototype.<p>Hoodoof: I am definitely planning to learn as much as I can, and would like to develop the skills to build a prototype, at least.<p>I was just pointing out that I have a respect for the experience developers have. Yes, I think I have a strong work ethic, but that's quite different than being adamant I'll be able to out program more experienced people.
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jdsadow将近 14 年前
Hey Jack,<p>E-mail should be there now, sorry about that.<p>Everything I've learned from those with experience is that outsourcing is a poor, short-term fix. I need the expertise &#38; insight of a real engineering lead, and one way or another when we get past the prototype phase, I'll just have someone else's code and still no lead engineering presence.
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hoodoof将近 14 年前
&#62;&#62;&#62;Simply put, I will work as hard as anyone to pursue something I believe in.<p>Perhaps you should work hard on learning to program then you won't need a life partner and can do it yourself.
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jackbean将近 14 年前
Hey Jon, don't see an email in profile. Also any reason you can't outsource the technical development?
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latch将近 14 年前
I'm curious, I'd like to hear the idea :)<p>You mix 'I' and 'we'...which is it?
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abbasmehdi将近 14 年前
Jon, embrace your weakness by conquering it, not by giving up on it. DIY.