Thunderbird 2020 Financial Report

&gt; we have 15 people hired and working on the project<p>Honest question: What are these people actually doing? I haven&#x27;t seen new features since a long time, but Thunderbird seems to have reorganized one year ago (<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;blog.thunderbird.net&#x2F;2020&#x2F;01&#x2F;thunderbirds-new-home&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;blog.thunderbird.net&#x2F;2020&#x2F;01&#x2F;thunderbirds-new-home&#x2F;</a>), so they probably plan something big, like a rewrite of the software?

I still use Claws Mail because I have never been able to figure out how to set Thunderbird to display emails with a consistent font size.<p>I&#x27;ve changed the advanced settings and set a minimum font size, and it has no effect. You can zoom in when you&#x27;re looking at an email, but the results are inconsistent from email to email.<p>With Claws Mail I get the same font size every time.<p>If anyone knows how to set this up properly, I&#x27;d give Thunderbird a try again.

What I want most out of Thunderbird is a self hostable web application that I can run on my own servers, and access as TLS1.3 in a browser, as a modern webmail app as competition for Rainloop and Roundcube.<p>I realize this would probably require a complete re-write.<p>The closest I can do to that now is a much more cumbersome solution involving something like a bare bones xfce4 desktop environment, the Linux thunderbird client, and VNC-over-SSH or apache guacamole.

I used Thunderbird as a work email client around 2012-2013 era. It was decent, but a little sluggish for my taste. I attributed it to my weak office PC at the time.<p>Thinking they&#x27;ve done some interesting updates since then, I tried it again recently, in February 2021.<p>I was disappointed to find a sluggish client with worse UI than it had 8 years ago, defeating the entire purpose of having a desktop email client on a powerful machine. Maybe it was some default settings or whatnot, but I didn&#x27;t feel like digging around to fix it and there was no advantage in using it over the default Gmail web client. RAM usage was not light either. It all seemed like some weird poor UI wrapper around an Electron instance that just loads the Gmail client.<p>I ended up going back to Opera Mail - a lightweight desktop email client from 2016, that unfortunately isn&#x27;t getting updated anymore.<p>Not sure what the use case is for that type of software anymore. It didn&#x27;t feel like a real desktop client.

I made an account to ask this.<p>1. Why is there no Thunderbird for Android? It&#x27;s the only project that I trust with my emails on my phone.<p>2. What do Android users use as an email client on their phones?<p>I current cannot access email on my phone. Maybe it is better this way, security wise. But if Thunderbird was available for Android I might consider using it.

So the typical Thunderbird user speaks German and runs Windows 10.

It&#x27;s really nice to see they&#x27;ve got enough money to hire 15 people.

&gt; Implementing a better vertical layout by exploring the possibility of not using the &lt;tree&gt; XUL element and relying on a highly scalable and equally performant HTML component.<p>Hey, does that mean we can have two lines per mail in the mail column :) ?<p>Otherwise, I am not convinced by matrix integration. Unless it&#x27;s a deep one and creates new scenarios impossible with two standalone applications.

I occasionally see their jobs page[1] and think I would love to work there, but I must admit being hired through Upwork gives me pause.<p>[1] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.thunderbird.net&#x2F;en-US&#x2F;careers&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.thunderbird.net&#x2F;en-US&#x2F;careers&#x2F;</a>

On an (un)related note, I only new realized they have been all this time rewriting Thunderbird in JavaScript.

Without question: Thunderbird (short: TB) may or may not be have its problems. But its very secure and last a long time.<p>I use this Client since 2000 (on Windows) and due to problems with my computer in the beginning, i use it the PortableApp.com Version of TB more than 10 years. My Mail-Archive (only important mails) is beginning in the year 2000, the whole TB-folder has a size of 1.33 GB.<p>TL;DR; I use TB and TB Portable over 20 years and have an actual folder size of 1.33 GB. No unsolvable problems in this time. I make heavy use of the RSS-Reader, too. Therefore i use uBlock Origin for TB.

Can someone recommend a thunderbird alternative on Linux that supports Microsoft Exchanges account? My company uses Exchange without imap. I can connect with apple mail on Mac, but yet need to find a mail client on linux. Thanks!

I&#x27;m sad. This project had so much potential in the early days. Right now it&#x27;s relegated to just being used by some aficionados.

Huh, I didn&#x27;t know Thunderbird was financially decoupled from Mozilla. What&#x27;s the history of the relationship there?

Any plans to add Microsoft &quot;in-place-archive&quot; support in Thunderbird?

There are still multiple bugs involving loss or corruption of email. (the one I&#x27;ve got open in another tab is 13 years old) Why does anyone actually use this program?