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I Like That the Boat Is Stuck

457 点作者 danbolt大约 4 年前

28 条评论

pjettter大约 4 年前
I also like that the boat is stuck, but not for the same reasons.<p>A stuck boat in general is not usually a big deal, but this particular stuck boat is giving visibility to how fragile and interconnected everything is. Of course we &quot;know&quot; that, but we often don&#x27;t see the extent of it until a disaster happens.<p>A system&#x27;s capacity got stretched. For a while this worked fine, but safety margins became smaller. It was just a matter of time before an accident like this would happen. And there is no redundancy (on this part of the canal).<p>So I like this stuck boat because it shows where &quot;the system&quot; has weaknesses. The system extends of course into many areas. Trade, finance, engineering, probably politics, etc.<p>Unfortunately, due to greed (oops, &quot;efficiency&quot;) we will always be running systems at, or slightly beyond capacity so accidents&#x2F;disasters like this will continue to happen.<p>I also like that the boat is stuck simply because it is an example of how quickly the world can &quot;unite&quot; in peaceful discussions around an absurd situation.
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leonardteo大约 4 年前
Was this article written with GPT3? It sure reads like it....<p>This is what Shortlyai spat out for me:<p>I like it that the boat in the Suez canal is stuck, I really do. I can&#x27;t help but feel good about this, Not for myself or because I know someone aboard, But just because it&#x27;s so nice to see orders being reversed. Such a long process for me to travel back and forth, Sometimes with a visa and sometimes not. It would be great if they could shake things up back home. I like it that the boat is stuck.<p>I like how the people onboard are still sending their messages, And I&#x27;m sure many of them are thinking that if they wanted to, They could get off the boat and walk around in Ismailia or Port Said, looking for a job. It&#x27;d be great to be able to find work in Egypt, but not everyone would think it&#x27;s worth all that effort. Plus if they did go ashore there might be an investigation so even if they did a little work for someone on board they might still get into trouble. I know that things will eventually calm down back home but first we&#x27;ll have a few good years where people can travel freely and without much hassle.
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gk1大约 4 年前
This is what I like about engineering... The problem is there, right in front of you. It can be a very difficult problem, but at least it&#x27;s right there, you can see it and measure it and talk about it without debating the underlying facts of the problem.<p>Edit: I&#x27;ll rephrase... I like that the problem is <i>tangible</i>. It may not always be obvious. :)
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coffeefirst大约 4 年前
On the other hand, I relate to the boat.<p>I was just trying to do regular stuff, and then some external nonsense caused me to get stuck. I am stuck in my house rather than the suez canal, and despite the best efforts of many capable people it&#x27;s taking a long time to get unstuck.<p>I am the boat.<p>We are all the boat.
carl_dr大约 4 年前
Is this is the correct place to debate whether it&#x27;s a ship that is stuck, and not a boat?
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uniqueid大约 4 年前
<p><pre><code> There&#x27;s no debate over whether or not the big boat is stuck </code></pre> Is a ship blocking the Suez Canal worse fodder for debate than Earth being round?<p>As I type this people are probably out there on Facebook or Reddit or 4chan explaining the truth behind the &#x27;Suez Canal Boat Hoax&#x27;
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antonvs大约 4 年前
This article has convinced me. I, too, am now a big fan of the boat being stuck.
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alfanhui大约 4 年前
Pleasant writing style. If anyone is interested in this type of simplicity in noveks, read Naïve. Super by Erlend Loe.
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dgritsko大约 4 年前
It&#x27;s definitely captured my attention. It seems like the kind of thing that a) shouldn&#x27;t happen or b) if it _does_ happen, should be resolved quickly. The fact that it _did_ happen and is taking much longer to resolve than I would have guessed is fascinating.
wideareanetwork大约 4 年前
That’s why I “liked” the pandemic. Because for fucking once the a situation came up that politicians couldn’t manipulate and lie about to make it go away. No matter what the politicians wanted, it still came. No matter what they told us would happen, reality happened instead.
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greybox大约 4 年前
This is the best thing I&#x27;ve ever read on hacker news.
sangnoir大约 4 年前
I feel like this celebration is premature - there are lot of ways misinformation can be spun around this; no group has yet decided to do so. There are million ways this basic fact can be twisted; let me free style a bit on <i>Ever Given</i> trutherism:<p>* The EU bureaucrats did this to make Brexit less awesome. Britain is now being forced to trade a bit more with the EU now a major shipping lane is blocked.<p>* the boat isn&#x27;t really stuck, it was smuggling children from the middle east and was going to be raided, so they faked this to unload the kids and cover their tracks. Here is the satellite image showing where the sickos are taking the poor, innocent babies. <i>The Ever Given has a Call Sign of H3RC. Or Hillary Rodham Clinton?[1]</i><p>* Israel did it to block Iranian oil exports and sink any chances of Biden reviving the JCPOA<p>1. This is an actual tweet I found by searching for &quot;clinton ever given&quot;: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;twitter.com&#x2F;BrassBallsBlog&#x2F;status&#x2F;1375382522469748737" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;twitter.com&#x2F;BrassBallsBlog&#x2F;status&#x2F;137538252246974873...</a>
krtkush大约 4 年前
I&#x27;m pretty sure that if the ship is stuck for a long enough time, conspiracies about it will start popping up and will lead to &quot;alternative facts and truths&quot;.
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ziofill大约 4 年前
There are animal welfare reasons for not liking that the boat is stuck: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.theguardian.com&#x2F;environment&#x2F;2021&#x2F;mar&#x2F;26&#x2F;at-least-20-livestock-ships-caught-in-suez-canal-logjam" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.theguardian.com&#x2F;environment&#x2F;2021&#x2F;mar&#x2F;26&#x2F;at-least...</a>
danr4大约 4 年前
I like the article, but nowadays it&#x27;s totally feasible that the author is underestimating the amount of people thinking &quot;The boat isn&#x27;t really stuck it&#x27;s a ruse by billionaires&#x2F;politicians&#x2F;MSM&#x2F;liberals&#x2F;oil companies&#x2F;big logistics&#x2F;*.&quot;
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berniedurfee大约 4 年前
I like that this article itself is causing a controversy; several, in fact, in parallel, here and elsewhere around the world. But the big boat is still stuck.
ZephyrBlu大约 4 年前
GPT-3, is that you?
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slibhb大约 4 年前
Is it true that no one is making this about &quot;big bad capitalism&quot; or &quot;incompetent globalist bureaucrats&quot;? I&#x27;d like to think that&#x27;s true but I find it hard to believe.<p>Either way, the sentiment that we should stop making everything about whatever perspective we&#x27;re currently invested in is extremely welcome. Sometimes a boat is a boat and sometimes it&#x27;s stuck.
noxer大约 4 年前
If there wasn&#x27;t a conspiracy theory that says the bot isn&#x27;t actually stuck and its all being faked by (them), then after enough people read this, there sure will be one. There goes your wishful thinking that we all agree on one thing for once.<p>BTW the first time I read that &quot;it was made on purpose and not an accident&quot;-theory, was literally minutes after I head about the whole thing. There is and never will be anything we humans all agree on. And quite frankly I dont see why anyone would strive to find something with universal agreement, if its so meaningless like this one. Its not like we could build common ground on this.
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slimbods大约 4 年前
It&#x27;s a ship not a boat.
dmd大约 4 年前
Nope. This isn&#x27;t agreed on at all. Just google &#x27;qanon canal&#x27;. It&#x27;s a conspiracy. They think the boat isn&#x27;t stuck, and it&#x27;s not a boat.<p>edit: I&#x27;m curious if downvoters are qanon-subscribers or just people who don&#x27;t think this contributes to the discussion.
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r0rshrk大约 4 年前
This article is either:<p>1. Written by GPT-3<p>2. Satire<p>3. A riff on how SEO&#x27;d articles have become nowadays
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weatherlight大约 4 年前
It kinda feels like it was written with GPT3, but I thought it was funny. I genuinely laughed towards the end.
emteycz大约 4 年前
I hate it. A massive amount of massive container ships is now heading to the 2-3 weeks longer route - and remember what fuel they use and how much of it...
5560675260大约 4 年前
For an article about big boat being stuck there is sure is a lot about author&#x27;s politics.
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malwarebytess大约 4 年前
I&#x27;m critiquing the premise of the article. That there is a simplicity to this problem that is overwhelming and refreshing, so much so that there&#x27;s no divisive or insane discourse possible around it. In fact there is a lot of it, and boy is it stupid!<p>&gt;The simplicity of the stuck big boat doesn&#x27;t matter to some people. The schizos have already done their research and figured out that it&#x27;s Hillary Clinton&#x27;s boat, and that it was EMP&#x27;d in a show of force to metaphorically represent her imprisonment. And the fact that they don&#x27;t just take a few tugs and pull it out is because they are doing it on purpose to disrupt world trade enough to justify the &quot;great reset.&quot; Not only that but it&#x27;s become a nexus for all kinds of bigotry. Basic misapprehensions likes &quot;oh wow, those idiots only sent one excavator!&quot; become pyres for racial hatred (i.e. of course they can&#x27;t figure it out, they&#x27;re middle eastern).<p>&gt;There&#x27;s your look into the insanoverse that some of our compatriots live in.<p>Don&#x27;t stick your head in the sand. The problems that affect all of the rest of our worlds understanding of events are also at play here.
alanbernstein大约 4 年前
&gt; It&#x27;s not stuck for mysterious reasons related to a long history of humans cruelly exploiting other humans.<p>That&#x27;s not really true though, is it? Sure, the stuckness itself isn&#x27;t mysterious. But the canal was built with deadly slave labor. The global shipping industry exists to facilitate exploitation of the developing areas of the world with manufacturing capacity. These monster cargo ships are an icon of the age of consumerism, which is largely responsible for the global pollution epidemic that will leave millions of unprivileged people underwater.<p>Sure, big stuck boat is as funny as it is true. But to be honest, I don&#x27;t like that the boat even exists.<p>On the other hand, I do kind of like how wholesome of a disaster it is.
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geofft大约 4 年前
&gt; <i>It&#x27;s not stuck for mysterious reasons related to a long history of humans cruelly exploiting other humans.</i><p>It&#x27;s not?<p>I thought the boat is stuck because it&#x27;s too long and the canal is too narrow, and the boat is too long because people want to move more and more things by boat so they can sell more things, but they don&#x27;t want to pay for more boats. So they kept making longer boats until they made one that&#x27;s too long to fit sideways. (At least, that&#x27;s what I heard.) And sometimes, in heavy winds and storms, boats turn sideways.<p>Even if this boat is unstuck, there&#x27;s a good chance another boat will be stuck, soon.<p>Maybe this isn&#x27;t directly about humans exploiting humans, but the motivation to build a boat that is too long because it is cheaper and hopefully won&#x27;t get stuck seems like the same motivation for human exploitation - it&#x27;s cheaper, and you can do it, and you can usually get away with it.<p>It would cost more to think in advance and say &quot;Hey, we don&#x27;t want any stuck boats here, the boats all need to be short enough that they won&#x27;t get stuck. Come back with two boats.&quot; It would be safer, but people don&#x27;t want safer, they want cheaper.<p>But yes, I like that the only thing hurt is the river bank. I am much happier that a boat is stuck than that, say, people who sew shirtwaists are stuck in a building on fire.