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Testing a few new designs that don't show the public dislike count

445 点作者 Jerry2大约 4 年前

116 条评论

retsibsi大约 4 年前
This seems rather user-hostile. The downvote count is useful for identifying videos that aren't what they claim to be. And how about DIY videos that give terrible advice? A big downvote ratio will get most people's attention in a way that critical comments may not.
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ravenstine大约 4 年前
How else is the mainstream supposed to spin reality? Entertainment giants used to more easily create the illusion of consensus, but web platforms like YouTube completely mess with their power by showing downvotes.
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BitwiseFool大约 4 年前
This seems deceptive more than anything else. If a content creator doesn't want their videos to be rated they can disable like/dislike ratings entirely. But to remove public dislikes across the entire site takes away a valuable indicator of video quality. Like/Dislike ratio can also express approval and disapproval for the subject itself, which is also valuable.
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nigrioid大约 4 年前
It&#x27;s because of what happens when the White House forgets to disable comments and dislikes.<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.mediapost.com&#x2F;publications&#x2F;article&#x2F;359823&#x2F;former-google-software-engineer-claims-youtube-era.html" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.mediapost.com&#x2F;publications&#x2F;article&#x2F;359823&#x2F;former...</a>
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barbacoa大约 4 年前
Has anyone else been slowly watching YouTube turn into cable TV? When I search &quot;Hong Kong protests&quot; I just get a bunch of videos from CNN and Fox News, not that long ago a search like that would turn up first hand videos of people who were there. Now they are copying streaming services in making it harder to tell what is garbage and what is worth watching.
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raynr大约 4 年前
Title is misleading. YouTube is testing removing the ability for viewers to see the dislikes. Video owners can still see the dislikes.<p>I am skeptical about this design change fixing the stated concern, which is creator &quot;well-being&quot;. If good faith creators can still see the dislike count, they will still feel miserable. Anyway, if you are putting yourself out there, other people taking a dump on you is part of the deal, because other people... you know, exist. If creator well-being is a concern, Google should focus on preventing or minimising actual harassment campaigns instead of these minimal design changes.<p>The design change also assumes that all creators are good faith actors whose well-being ought to be managed, which is impossibly idealistic. If there is a way for bad faith actors to benefit at the cost of good faith actors, they will exploit that, and the good faith actors will lose ground over the long term.<p>It also ignores that dislikes can be given for many reasons, hiding valuable screening information from the viewer. It should not be up to Google to hide this info and finesse their recommendation engine behind the scenes to serve relevant videos. Google would optimize for views, not the content in the video.
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swiley大约 4 年前
It&#x27;s quickly getting to the point where being exposed to youtube at all just opens you up to a ton of intentional manipulation from an organization who&#x27;s entire product is manipulating people for pay.<p>It&#x27;s probably best to completely avoid all of it.
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munk-a大约 4 年前
This is slightly off-topic but I wanted to say that the restriction on HN to not be able to downvote direct ancestors (and locking downvoting behind a karma threshold) seems to have served it very well. The restriction of direct ancestor downvotes in particular is a habit I really wish other sites (eyes reddit) would actually implement. It prevents the most common type of downvote the &quot;You have attempted to shame me by trying to disagree with me and thus you must suffer&quot; type.
mikece大约 4 年前
If someone (companies included) is so sensitive to being down-voted perhaps the internet isn&#x27;t for them. In the case of one campaign of which I&#x27;m aware, Lucasfilm and Disney has been hammered by Star Wars fans, down-voting their videos because they have no other way to send a message to Disney that the personnel actions of Kathleen Kennedy have thrown the plans for the Mandalorian -- and it&#x27;s connected shows -- into delays and uncertainty. I&#x27;m pretty sure Disney (and their shareholders) are more upset by the fact that #CancelDisneyPlus is <i>still</i> trending on Twitter, something that actually costs them share value. That YouTube would do this further shows that their platform is for big companies and brand-safe content free from negative perceptions and not &quot;You&quot; like their name implies.
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sokoloff大约 4 年前
It doesn&#x27;t look like they&#x27;re <i>removing</i> dislikes at all, but rather <i>hiding the count of</i> dislikes from <i>viewers</i> of the video (in a test).
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tpmx大约 4 年前
Too many embarassing cases of large numbers of downvotes on Youtube-produced videos?<p>(Edit: Boom, apparently this post was just flagged to page 2.)
twic大约 4 年前
I have a much sillier reason for disliking this change, which is that there is a charming part of YouTube culture where people attempt to explain a small number of downvotes on an otherwise popular video in a witty way.<p>For example, on a recent piece of Imperial propaganda [1] with 100K upvotes and 935 downvotes, we find the comment:<p>&gt; 930 heretics and counting...<p>This one isn&#x27;t laugh-out-loud funny, maybe raises a grin. Others are better. But it&#x27;s a tiny artform which will be lost from the world.<p>[1] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=AWnQedD4BlI" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=AWnQedD4BlI</a>
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haunter大约 4 年前
&#x27;member when reddit removed the visible downvote count back in 2014, that was really one of the end of something there <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.reddit.com&#x2F;r&#x2F;announcements&#x2F;comments&#x2F;28hjga&#x2F;reddit_changes_individual_updown_vote_counts_no&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.reddit.com&#x2F;r&#x2F;announcements&#x2F;comments&#x2F;28hjga&#x2F;reddi...</a><p>Just a random screenshot cause haven&#x27;t found anything else in Google <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;i.imgur.com&#x2F;3y8W2mk.png" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;i.imgur.com&#x2F;3y8W2mk.png</a><p>You could see if a comment was highly engaging despite at the bottom, say 200&#x2F;210 (upvotes&#x2F;downvotes). Nowdays you only see the + or - number and that&#x27;s all, only pushing that &quot;meta&quot; narrative that most people want to see.
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SergeAx大约 4 年前
Dislike button is a viable instrument of social pressure. About a year ago popular Russian rapper appeared in a government-funded propaganda-like video. After 1MM dislikes he addressed the public, said he was unaware of the real purpose of video and apologized. The video was eventually taken down.
stolenmerch大约 4 年前
I&#x27;d love if they just remove Likes as well, honestly. I&#x27;ve been using the &#x27;Hide Likes&#x27; Chrome Extension for over a year now. I have to say, not seeing Likes or Dislikes on YouTube and other social media is a huge quality of life increase. There is a perceptible difference in reaction when you don&#x27;t know how popular or unpopular something on the internet is.
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CountDrewku大约 4 年前
Ayayya. Loooong past time to break Google up. They&#x27;re a disgusting propaganda machine bent on manipulating everyone into their weird ideologies. Amazon and the rest of these social media platforms that are working in coercion need the same treatment. They might as well all be owned by the same umbrella corporation at this point.
frongpik大约 4 年前
Youtube is trying to sit on two chairs: it needs dislikes to feed its ML algorithms, but it wants to keep users in the dark. I doubt users will bother to send likes and dislikes into the void, so youtube will have to give at least something back. I bet that the final solution will be to show users convincing fake data, so they would feel the urge to contribute by clicking that like it dislike button.
userbinator大约 4 年前
I still remember when you could <i>rate</i> videos on a scale of 1-5 (or was it 0-5?), and it showed the average rating from everyone who did. Then they made it a binary like&#x2F;dislike, and now the trend continues to making it unary...<p>IMHO the &quot;like&#x2F;dislike&quot; mentality is partly responsible for the divisive hostility of culture today. You either like something or not, you&#x27;re with us or against us, there&#x27;s no middle ground.
kashprime大约 4 年前
There’s been something wonky about YouTube downvotes for a little while now. If you go any children’s video (I have two toddlers so am accessing them all the time), downvotes often outstrip upvotes. The reasons are unclear, maybe competitive pressure from rival channels astroturfing the votes? Take a look at this[0] video from Sesame Street, 1.3m downvotes for a fairly decent educational video, vs 1.7m upvotes? How is that even justified? I can’t blame YouTube for removing a metric which looks like is being manipulated on a massive level. [0] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;youtu.be&#x2F;783EsrHchXA" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;youtu.be&#x2F;783EsrHchXA</a>
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shuntress大约 4 年前
What is going on in the comments to this article?<p>Why has this relatively minor youtube feature change dredged up such significant vitriol and conspiracy-adjacent rhetoric in the hacker news comments?<p>Skimming all the comments here I&#x27;m seeing lots of flaming and hand-wringing. I don&#x27;t have any actual measures, but to me it feels like significantly more than normal even for an article about a high-profile site&#x2F;company.
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jfrunyon大约 4 年前
It&#x27;s supposedly about &quot;creator well-being&quot;, which I basically read as creators get downvote brigaded and get upset. Which is simultaneously silly, and also will still happen because they&#x27;re still going to show the dislike count to the creator. ???
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tialaramex大约 4 年前
The only thing I&#x27;ve seen Dislike count used for on videos I watch is to drive a snowclone about what hypothetical type of viewers would dislike this particular video, like say there&#x27;s a video showing how to correctly position Protoss buildings to prevent a Reaper jumping into your base in the video game Starcraft 2 [an early game harassment which is annoying and could win if you defend it poorly], and the video has 12 dislikes, the snowclone comment might be &quot;12 Reapers saw this video&quot;.<p>I have never seen a video which I thought &quot;This is a bad video, nobody should watch this video&quot; and had lots of dislikes. I don&#x27;t think clicking that would even achieve its goal, clicking the dislike button is <i>engagement</i> and shows you cared about this content enough to do something.<p>So this change seems fine to me. Dislike will still exist, but now it won&#x27;t cause a snowclone we didn&#x27;t really need and it doesn&#x27;t make numbers go up visibly.
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joshuak大约 4 年前
It seems to me the platforms that have the most trouble maintaining a grasp on reality are the ones that don’t allow down votes. Down votes are the cognitive immune system at work. Not that down votes are necessarily correct, but rather they provide increased resistance to propagation. Also you can hardly fix a problem by blinding yourself to it.
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lfti大约 4 年前
Bad news for the citizens of the Neutral Planet: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=qump1X6OrEc" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=qump1X6OrEc</a>
mywacaday大约 4 年前
It&#x27;s strange, I upvote pretty much without a thought but I will consider a downvote, it has to be sincerely offensive, wrong or dangerous to get a downvote. To me at least a downvote tells an important story.
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qq4大约 4 年前
What&#x27;s next, getting rid of comments? I use YouTube less and less these days, but I have to say that the dislike button tends to hold more utility than the great swathes of garbage comments. Not that I&#x27;m advocating for getting rid of comments, but I see plenty of disliking within them.
phendrenad2大约 4 年前
And YouTube becomes even more useless to me. The LAST remaining use I have for YouTube (since it ceased to be entertaining by demonetizing all of my favorite creators to the point where they need to shill VPNs and underwear every 2 minutes) is to find tutorials and guides on how to do things I want to learn to do. Too bad I won&#x27;t know when a guide is giving me bad advice, because there won&#x27;t be a crowdsourced like&#x2F;dislike ratio. Guess I&#x27;ll have to go to Udemy or something.
Schattenbaer大约 4 年前
Seems to be a visibility-only change to a small cohort of users.<p>Tangentially, I&#x27;ve often wanted a third button, call it &quot;disinterested&quot;.<p>This would just tell YouTube not to recommend more of the same for me, without adjusting the ratio of votes up or down.<p>There are many videos I don&#x27;t actively dislike (I might not have any strong feelings) I just don&#x27;t want YouTube to recommend more cats with laugh tracks after I click a some link in our #random Slack channel.
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kostarelo大约 4 年前
They kinda already did though. You don’t see likes&#x2F;dislikes when you search for a video so you only use it’s popularity in order to decide to click on it.
tyingq大约 4 年前
It is interesting how YouTube seems to maintain the mainstream video moat. The only competitors that make any inroads are in sub-niches, like Twitch.
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alirsgp大约 4 年前
As someone in the ad industry (not part of Google) this makes perfect sense. Youtube likely has video quality scores (like for Grammys, Academy, etc), where they&#x27;re able to get the best bang for their buck when users watch such videos.<p>Disliking such videos will drive users away from these videos, and hurt their profits. They likely ran a test already and deemed it worthwhile.
jlebar大约 4 年前
@dang: Bad headline. Tweet says it will <i>hide the number of dislikes</i>, but you&#x27;ll still be able to dislike a video.
DoreenMichele大约 4 年前
Downvotes have been weirdly wonky and aggressive all over the internet for, say, a year or so.<p>Maybe we could work harder on the root causes and worry less about people &quot;kicking the dog&quot; all over the internet because life simply isn&#x27;t working across the entire planet for various reasons.<p>&#x2F;Random thought from a random internet stranger
bitL大约 4 年前
Next, IMDB only allows ratings between 8-10.
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phailhaus大约 4 年前
This is always always always a mistake. Social media _needs_ negative signals in order to self moderate, even if it&#x27;s not much. Look at Facebook and Twitter for what happens when you don&#x27;t: any kind of interaction is seen as positive, so both platforms amplify the most toxic and attention-seeking behaviors.
ipaddr大约 4 年前
The dislike score is a relic of the past. A dislike is a measure of how bad google did at showing you content you expected.<p>Type in show boat videos and they show you a love boat video so you hit dislike. There was never anything wrong with the loveboat video, it was just shown to someone looking for something else.
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SuboptimalEng大约 4 年前
Seeing 1k likes &quot;hits different&quot; from seeing 1k likes and 2k dislikes.
roody15大约 4 年前
This is simply so google can exert more control over its platform and control the narrative.<p>Hate to be so cynical but watching what happened to reddit seeing some similarities here at youtube.<p>It’s almost like Google (and others) want to tell you which videos are good and should be watched and pretend to have user interaction.<p>TV 3.0
Google234大约 4 年前
This is terrible and user hostile. How can I avoid bad content now? Why does YT care more about the feelings of a few super star creators than the user base?
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Ekaros大约 4 年前
I give 2 years before comments are entirely gone...<p>It seems that all types of user-interaction is getting prohibited...
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SimeVidas大约 4 年前
The title is incorrect. This is not about removing dislikes but about now showing the dislike count.
SXX大约 4 年前
Okay it&#x27;s seems like this is the time to create chanel of videos full of bad advice in them. Until Google start to determine whatever advice sounds bad to them so they can ban everyone based off this metric too.
greatgib大约 4 年前
This is the aseptic brand new world that is pushed by too powerful companies<p>No more critic, no more negativity, just kool aid and fake positivity as this is good for business when every one pretend to live in a fairy world...
blargathon大约 4 年前
Let&#x27;s consider them as market forces. Likes are internet currency. In that context dislikes are a secondary currency that doesn&#x27;t have a clear value. Dislikes tend to depend on the content and current cultural norms to determine why the dislike was added. Their value is not easily determined. For a controversial creator a dislike may actually be a badge of honor. For a DIY creator it&#x27;s a major negative. Due to this apparent ambiguity in the value of dislikes and what they mean I don&#x27;t find them worth while.
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racl101大约 4 年前
Well, they might as well remove the like button too cause the rating system will be useless now.
davesque大约 4 年前
Honestly, it seems like there&#x27;s no easy win here. I think people for and against this both have good arguments. For example, getting rid of dislikes could mitigate the effects of synthetic brigading campaigns. On the other hand, keeping them could in certain cases give a better view of the organic reaction to a video. I don&#x27;t spend every day trying to solve these problems so I don&#x27;t have a strong opinion about what the right answer is.
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iambateman大约 4 年前
To put it simply...I use downvotes on YouTube to assess quality constantly.<p>The ratio is meaningful.
mullingitover大约 4 年前
This is, of course, a customer-centric move for Youtube (of course keep in mind, you the Youtube viewer are the <i>product,</i> not the customer).
dathinab大约 4 年前
While many will complain and there had been some reasonable cases for dislike counts (they only remove the counts not the dislikes!) I think this kinda makes sense.<p>The large majority of &quot;productive&quot;&#x2F;&quot;fair&quot; video engagement is pretty much independent of the dislike *counts*.<p>It still matters to be able to dislike as a feedback function but they are not removing this (for now at least.).
booleandilemma大约 4 年前
Users should just comment &quot;dislike&quot; (or some form of it) from here on out.<p>Or maybe people can rate videos on a 3rd party service.
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goatcode大约 4 年前
I wonder how long it will take until the anti-?ism apologetics come out to justify this to headline-readers.
kelnos大约 4 年前
One of the things I really like about HN is that you can&#x27;t see the moderation counts on other people&#x27;s posts. If YT is going to kill dislike counts, they should also kill like counts.<p>They can still algorithmically bury things that are severely disliked, and promote things that are heavily liked. The video uploader, though, should be able to see the counts in order to get some feedback as to the quality of their videos.<p>Absolute numbers of likes&#x2F;dislikes turns things into a popularity contest and fuels social media addiction. If you can only see the counts on your own content, you can&#x27;t compare yourself to someone else and find yourself lacking (or vice versa).
winstonschmidt大约 4 年前
What&#x27;s going on in this comment section? It seems more like of a reddit thread than the usual thoughtful HN comments. Propaganda? Ghostbusters? Whitehouse? &quot;They&quot;? Are troll farms targeting HN now?
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yammyhhub大约 4 年前
Seems like having the most disliked video in their own website did affect them
rosmax_1337大约 4 年前
This does not seem to me like a move to &quot;improve the user experience&quot;, but rather to hide the public opinion about certain topics, such as politics or consumer media. Others name examples here in this thread, such as Ghostbusters (2016) and their trailers and recent Biden administration videos on the White house channel.<p>I am curious __in a genuine way__ if someone who might consider themselves &quot;woke left&quot; (at the lack of a better word) here on HN who sees this as a positive development? (I.e., someone who views both aforementioned examples very positively)<p>Or actually, anyone regardless of political leaning for that matter?<p>Because personally I find it hard to construct even a simple argument for the viewpoint that hiding this information in any improves the website and&#x2F;or society at large, with youtube being an important piece of infrastructure for the entire world right now. This instead would just seem like google continuing down their path of abandoning their &quot;don&#x27;t be evil&quot; slogan.
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fasteo大约 4 年前
Related - and maybe off-topic.<p>I have never participated in any change.org campaign for a similar reason: You cannot sign to oppose, so you end up with an extremely distorted view of a given matter.
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jzymbaluk大约 4 年前
At least on comments, I&#x27;m not sure the dislike button actually did anything previously. The count didn&#x27;t move when the dislike button was pressed.
daveoc64大约 4 年前
Reading the comments here makes me realise that how people use the like and dislike buttons differs significantly.<p>It reminds me of the Uber approach to rating drivers - by Uber&#x27;s metrics anything less than 5 stars indicates there was a problem with the ride.<p>There are riders who don&#x27;t see it that way though, so for them, 3 stars is an average ride without problems.<p>I rarely look at likes and dislikes. For anything large, it&#x27;s full of brigading.
trentnix大约 4 年前
Sure. It reveals which videos they are pushing on you despite the community of viewers recognizing them as being misleading, deceitful, or distasteful.
Jyaif大约 4 年前
I&#x27;ve actually made the same choice, but in the context of a game and user generated levels: people can like and dislike a level, but only the like count is shown. It&#x27;s based on the user feedback (they don&#x27;t want to be demotivated&#x2F;humiliated by a large dislike count). It&#x27;s also the solution chosen by Super Mario Maker 2, a big influence on me.
hunter-2大约 4 年前
Neither does this help the viewer, nor would this discourage targeted dislike-campaigns. Any layman user knows that the dislikes play a part in YouTube&#x27;s recommendation algorithm. So, people who want to organize such campaigns are still going to do it because it helps them with their objectives. Only the messaging around the campaign is going to differ.
Grimm1大约 4 年前
That title doesn&#x27;t seem to be correct, they&#x27;re just not showing the exact number to anyone but the creator.
tubbyjr大约 4 年前
Use better alternative platforms such as Odysee<p>Or if your fave content is only on Youtube, an alternative front-end such as Invidious
bioinformatics大约 4 年前
I guess Amy Schumer feels vindicated now.
boltzmann_大约 4 年前
I think social media companies underestimate the value of negative feedback.<p>Also ranking-wise is a very strong signal to have
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Fern_Blossom大约 4 年前
Am I the only one that smells April Fools because the whole VW thing seemed so legit just the other day?<p>No... just me? K...
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martinmjc大约 4 年前
Like Twitter lists, you can always skip the recommendation algorithm through crafted subscription.
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seandoe大约 4 年前
This is just like when they got rid of the star ratings. It annoyed me at the time, but it all makes sense. They want to take away tools that allow you to make your own click choices and doing so gives them more power to control what you ultimately click on.
npmaile大约 4 年前
5 stars to 0 stars first, then it was &quot;like&quot;, ignore, or &quot;dislike&quot; and now it&#x27;s going to be &quot;like&quot; or ignore. 5 options -&gt; 3 options -&gt; 2 options. I&#x27;m curious to see what comes in 5 years.
wetpaws大约 4 年前
The cinic in me says the only reason for this is the shame from YouTube rewind fiasco.
dirtyid大约 4 年前
Between showing:<p>-Likes&#x2F;Dislikes<p>-Only likes<p>-Only dislikes<p>I&#x27;d rather have only dislikes to filter content producer that can work past negativity.
rPlayer6554大约 4 年前
Wouldn&#x27;t a more appropriate HN title be &quot;remove public dislike count&quot;?
pininja大约 4 年前
I think the title should be revised to something like “removing public dislike counts”. The tweet shows the dislike feature isn’t removed, dislikes aren’t being deleted, and creators can still see exact dislike counts.
DavidVoid大约 4 年前
I&#x27;d be more for adding some kind of requirement for liking&#x2F;disliking a video. I think that would be a decent way to get rid of shitty mass-dislikes from people who didn&#x27;t even watch the video.
yrro大约 4 年前
Can&#x27;t creators already do this? I know I&#x27;ve noticed that the dislike ratio&#x2F;count&#x2F;whatever have been hidden on a number of videos I&#x27;ve seen over the years....
AzzieElbab大约 4 年前
They should make a video about it before removing the dislikes
Krisjohn大约 4 年前
April Fools is starting a little earlier than normal.
kowlo大约 4 年前
Let&#x27;s hope it&#x27;s an early April 1st joke...
gbolcer大约 4 年前
This is just a side effect of national politics. Federal courts rules that the public has a right to information.<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;knightcolumbia.org&#x2F;documents&#x2F;a07ecc2a26" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;knightcolumbia.org&#x2F;documents&#x2F;a07ecc2a26</a><p>Despite that, Youtube is trying to counter bad engagement. Several of Biden&#x27;s content team&#x27;s postings of youtube content have gotten tens of thousand of likes, but millions of dislikes resulting in a content &quot;ratio&quot;. Downvoters have not been able to be discredited as bots or automated activity.<p>This isn&#x27;t a general policy. It&#x27;s a very specific damage control and political advocacy cloaked in a generic policy.
j_san大约 4 年前
I actually think it&#x27;s an interesting change and might make my youtube a bit better for me personally. Let&#x27;s see how this goes.
foofoo4u大约 4 年前
Youtube has been displaying prominent banners on their homepage for the past several months promoting identity-politics centric content by token members. These videos were down voted to oblivion. The community clearly doesn&#x27;t like their woke agenda (including I). Quickly the videos comments and ratings become disabled. I can&#x27;t help but think this new feature to disable down votes is somehow a sinister way to take away the power of people to signal their disapproval of driving narratives.
Jommi大约 4 年前
Flagged. YouTube &quot;to test out removing&quot; dislikes. I thought HN had a tighter catch on titles like these...
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mrgill大约 4 年前
YT should work on preventing targeted dislikes rather than taking away the likes counter - which is so, so useful.
PrimeDirective大约 4 年前
That&#x27;s rich, coming from a company that authored and uploaded the most downvoted video on their own platform
avindroth大约 4 年前
Isn’t the title misleading? They are not removing dislikes; they are testing UI without them. Huge difference.
ridaj大约 4 年前
Wrong, clickbaity title<p>A correct summary would be: &quot;YouTube experiments with removing public dislike counts&quot;
mensetmanusman大约 4 年前
They should go the arrested development route and replace ‘up and down’ with ‘lion and crocodile’
bobiny大约 4 年前
I find dislikes a hostile form of conversation. If you want to discern if a DIY video gives legit advice, look at comment section. A good video will have something like “this totally works, thanks” with many likes.<p>If a video is misleading or fake, I think it should be reported and removed or marked as misleading and fake.<p>I see that my view is not popular, I’m open for debate.
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swagatkonchada大约 4 年前
well, time for someone to build a third party dislike count and release browser extensions
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balozi大约 4 年前
Maybe a YouTube content creator can chime in. I haven&#x27;t seen any on this thread. ...
battles大约 4 年前
April Fools?
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timnetworks大约 4 年前
I think the platform just realized that Harry Mack has been uploading videos there.
kimchidude大约 4 年前
Is this title accurate? Sounds more like their just testing this arrangement out.
blibble大约 4 年前
that&#x27;s fine, I&#x27;ll just use the report button instead
reportgunner大约 4 年前
Time to forget youtube. Most of it is drivel anyway.
melbourne_mat大约 4 年前
I don&#x27;t get the point of likes and dislikes on YouTube. In more than a decade of use, I have only in the last year or two used the like button and from my TV. Views matter - not likes.
swilliamsio大约 4 年前
I thought this was an April Fools joke at first.
gohbgl大约 4 年前
New browser extension coming in in 3, 2, 1, ...
agumonkey大约 4 年前
now innovation in the web is about removing so called innovations, let&#x27;s iterate quickly and remove the rest..
sigstoat大约 4 年前
i won’t mind not seeing all of the “how could six people dislike this video?!?!” comments.<p>doesn’t seem worth it though.
srg0大约 4 年前
I suppose it&#x27;s April 1 content.
ziml77大约 4 年前
I have an extension that shows the likes&#x2F;dislikes under the video thumbnails. When I look at the news section of the main page, it&#x27;s been very consistent for months that there&#x27;s an overwhelming number of dislikes on any video about COVID. Same for things about Biden (but wasn&#x27;t an issue on positive news about Trump). I wonder if this is why they&#x27;re removing dislikes. Could be that the media has pressured them to.
omar_kha大约 4 年前
you know this website has no down vote, twitter also has no dislike button
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l0b0大约 4 年前
Targeted dislike campaigns are clearly a thing. I&#x27;m glad they are doing this.
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lenkite大约 4 年前
Well, youtube is getting severely criticised for removing dislikes from Biden videos. I guess they have decided (correctly) to simply remove the options for dislikes altogether. Frankly, I think this is FAR more honest than removing dislikes.
staff009大约 4 年前
Same here - you can&#x27; t down vote. IMHO this should be possible.
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tsjq大约 4 年前
April fools.?
azhenley大约 4 年前
April Fools?
xyst大约 4 年前
soon there will be no comments across the entire site, and content creators will have to pay to post videos
Udik大约 4 年前
I was just thinking of the possibile impact had by not allowing&#x2F; hiding dislikes in creating the current, extremely tense climate on social networks. I wonder if allowing only positive feedback (which seemed to be meant, at least at the beginning, as a way to boost a mood of positive, pleasant interaction) is instead encouraging the expression of more and more extreme positions, since disagreement is effectively hidden. The popularity of a message doesn&#x27;t imply that it&#x27;s not at the same time divisive. You can get millions of hearts and likes, but you&#x27;ll still be blind to how many people strongly disagree with it.
throwitaway1235大约 4 年前
How much do you want to bet the Biden admin made this request of Google because many of his speeches had more dislikes than likes?<p>They&#x27;ve deleted a bunch of his dislikes in the past.
shmerl大约 4 年前
Something HN should totally do as well. There is a report link for inappropriate posts already. Dislike button doesn&#x27;t serve any good purpose.
hnnameblah365大约 4 年前
As a compromise they could display only the magnitude of likes and dislikes. There&#x27;s no difference to me if something has 100 or 900 dislikes; 1.2M or 7.9M likes.
krapp大约 4 年前
There seem to be an awful lot of accounts here pushing the narrative - which seems to have come out of nowhere - that this is some kind of conspiracy to hide the number of dislikes on the White House&#x27;s official Youtube channel. I guess someone wants us to believe there&#x27;s some deep popular dissent and resentment against the Biden administration that they desperately want to have covered up.<p>Sorry gentlemen, it&#x27;s a reach. Crippling senility didn&#x27;t stick, pedophilia didn&#x27;t stick, whatever Hunter Biden&#x27;s laptop was supposed to be didn&#x27;t stick, and this... is getting kind of desperate. I know you&#x27;re gearing up for 2024 but please, find some better memes. Quality over quantity.
cwhiz大约 4 年前
Love it. The dislike, down arrow, and other such options just serve to give the mob an opportunity to bury things they don’t like. I wish HN would get rid of the downvote.
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darepublic大约 4 年前
How about someone creates a network of users that are vetted in some way to basically be &#x27;honest&#x27; actors and not bots, then they use a browser extension that lets you view and input likes and dislikes for content across the internet independently of what the site provides. Will stop bot-ing&#x2F;gaming of system if it works. Also if network is small enough even a couple of plus votes could be enough for you to &#x27;trust&#x27; that it has a genuine positive review from a reasonable person.