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UK finds 30 blood clot cases after AstraZeneca jab

36 点作者 dsnr大约 4 年前

8 条评论

xref大约 4 年前
They conveniently don’t include any data about how these numbers compare to the population at large.
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libertine大约 4 年前
Again the British media did a disservice to the vaccination effort, after weeks of bashing several regulators for making the decision of investigating this anomaly, and never once questioned the possibility that maybe it wasn&#x27;t yet expressed in the UK data because their own regulator missed these cases.<p>One thing is to bash the EU politicians because that&#x27;s kind of what they are there for, other thing is to bash health authorities, regulators, doctors and scientists out of some sick sense of nationalism and superiority.<p>It&#x27;s just sad.<p>Norway, Germany, Denmark and other countries regulator bodies worked together to identify the anomaly, what triggers it, and how to deal with it, and this will prevent unnecessary deaths of people that are committed to help stop this pandemic by taking a vaccine.<p>That&#x27;s how these agencies should work, that&#x27;s why everyone should be relieved about taking a vaccine - they didn&#x27;t create new protocols, or closed their eyes, or bent over politics, just because this vaccine effort is important. They know what they are doing, and questioning them out of arrogance it&#x27;s just an expression of ignorance.
yread大约 4 年前
Today Eudra Vigilance database will contain numbers for this week. Last week there were 59 cases of cerebral venous sinus thrombosis (the week before 31 the week before 7), 14 died, only 3 recovered so far. 45 women, 14 men almost all 18-64 years.<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;ibb.co&#x2F;5TmLRPL" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;ibb.co&#x2F;5TmLRPL</a>
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refurb大约 4 年前
Anyone interested in possible explanations for this should read Derek Lowe’s blog.<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;blogs.sciencemag.org&#x2F;pipeline&#x2F;archives&#x2F;2021&#x2F;03&#x2F;30&#x2F;blood-clots-and-the-az-vaccine-revisited" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;blogs.sciencemag.org&#x2F;pipeline&#x2F;archives&#x2F;2021&#x2F;03&#x2F;30&#x2F;bl...</a><p><i>” A possible concern is what’s being called vaccine-induced prothrombotic immune thrombocytopenia (VIPIT) by Andreas Greinacher at Univ. Griefswald. This is a blood clotting syndrome that’s similar to what’s observed with the (already known) syndrome of heparin-induced thrombocytopenia. That problem, first over 40 years ago, is a paradoxical effect that occurs in a few people of administering heparin for blood clotting problems and actually making the situation worse.”</i>
alexaholic大约 4 年前
I’ve seen some comments here saying this is one in a million. Here’s the thing: while that may be statistically true, it’s not an argument to convince people to take the shot. You can’t tell folks “hey, listen, there’s a very slight chance you’re gonna die, but don’t you worry - mathematics is on your side”. It looks like a lottery nobody wants to play. People don’t care about mathematics. Mathematics didn’t make sense in school, it sure not gonna make sense in <i>their</i> life-or-death situation. Ironically, this is the kind of irrational thinking that needlessly exposes the very same people to the virus. The difference is the virus is an accident, while the antivirus is a choice, so I guess they’re essentially saying “I’d rather my death was an accident not my deliberate choice”.<p>I don’t blame people, though. A friend of mine did the AZ shot recently. The next day he had chest pains and palpitations so severe he thought he was going to have a heart attack. He has a heart disease, but the doctor said the vaccine was safe, and he trusts doctors. Now he’s sh!t scared to take the second dose. The doctor says he’s gonna do fine, and he can’t get tested to see if it’s safe. The vaccine <i>is</i> the test. Should I tell him about statistics? I’d be heartless if I did. He’s well aware of the numbers, but the fear of death (or the desire to live) win against mathematics.
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_ph_大约 4 年前
Some observations just from watching the news reports about AZ, especially here in Germany:<p>- over 30 cases were observed, that is statistically higher than expected, that would have been less than 5.<p>- all cases were below 55, very few men<p>- due to the approval process in EU, AZ wasn&#x27;t approved for people over 65 until very recently, as the initial approval didn&#x27;t contain the necessary data in this age group. As a consequence, AZ was used for young people that qualified for a vaccination, e.g. health workers, teachers. Other than these groups, general vaccination only happened above 70 for the scarcity of vaccine.<p>- As AZ is now approved for any age group, last week the vaccination plan was altered, AZ is now used only for people over 60, everyone else gets other vaccines (mostly BioNTech)<p>- the UK always used AZ for all age groups, starting with the oldest. Currently people down to the age 50. So the majority of the vaccinated people in the UK was above the age group in which the cases had been observed in the EU.
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alien_大约 4 年前
There are lots of conspiracy theories spreading FUD especially about the AZ vaccine and such news don&#x27;t help.<p>How many deaths were caused by the AZ and other vaccines so far and how does that compare with the mortality rate of the disease?<p>Is there any website that is gathering and debunking these conspiracy theories?
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rado大约 4 年前
Of course they should investigate, but journalists need to point out this is one in a million, much lower than the normal rate.
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