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Vitamin D: The truth about an alleged Covid ‘cover-up’

39 点作者 rainhacker大约 4 年前

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ryandrake大约 4 年前
The pandemic has laid bare the general public’s appalling inability to deal with ambiguity and rapidly changing scientific consensus. So many people expect there to be only One True Truth, and the first person to make a statement about something is expected to deliver that Single True Truth. Then, when the situation on the ground changes, and a new recommendation gets made, these people’s brains explode and they can’t understand facts having to change with new information.<p>When the very first person said “Vitamin D helps” and “Hydroxychloroquine is a miracle cure” and “masks don’t work”, that became the red letter, unchangeable, holy truth to the masses. When new info made the recommendation a change, brains exploded, and half of them said “That first person was a LIAR! Conspiracy!” and the other half said “We can’t trust anyone! They’re always changing the truth!”<p>Flip flopping is the ultimate sin. If you’re going to be a prophet of science, you need to say one gospel truth and <i>never</i> change your mind.
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CoolGuySteve大约 4 年前
A few years ago I got sick a lot and even got shingles. A blood test showed I was extremely vitamin D deficient so I&#x27;ve been supplementing ever since.<p>So like Stuart Smalley, while I&#x27;m not a doctor, I have read a lot about it due to my own health problems.<p>The long and the short of it is that vitamin D is a hormone that takes weeks of supplementation to build up to sufficient levels. This hormone is instrumental in having a functional immune system.<p>With regards to covid, severity seems to depend on immune system response. So it&#x27;s not unreasonable to think vitamin D is necessary but not singularly sufficient to prevent severe covid.
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nojokes大约 4 年前
From the mentioned list, latest research (5 independent double-blinded studies) suggests that Ivermectin really has antiviral properties against SARS-COV-2 (in vivo of course).<p>What has been also suggested to have been neglected is role of Zinc in COVID-19 treatment.<p>Btw usual dosage I have taken Vitamin D has been 25000 U.I. (625 μg) once in a week but I have also taken 100000 U.I. (2500 μg if I understand the conversion correctly) dosages when my Vitamin D level has been very low. All prescribed by my doctor. You have to consult yours before you start taking anything in large dosages.<p>The conclusion appears to be right. Anti-vaxxer and anti-mask people tend to have considerable overlap. Many of them also believe in some PCR tests related conspiracy.
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frankus大约 4 年前
Related post by Scott Alexander: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;astralcodexten.substack.com&#x2F;p&#x2F;covidvitamin-d-much-more-than-you" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;astralcodexten.substack.com&#x2F;p&#x2F;covidvitamin-d-much-mo...</a>
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chmod600大约 4 年前
The problem is this: if you ask a doctor, they will tell you &quot;of course you shouldn&#x27;t be deficient; get tested and supplement if necessary&quot;.<p>But lots of people are deficient because of modern lifestyles and won&#x27;t bother with the test. So the better advice is that most people should supplement based on a few simple criteria.<p>Why aren&#x27;t public health officials saying that? It&#x27;s ridiculous to go through a pandemic with the same old useless advice. And if you push vitamin D, now you&#x27;re a conspiracy theorist.<p>Just take vitamin D in reasonable and get tested occasionally. Stop if you are on the high side.
bananapear大约 4 年前
A list of vitamin D&#x2F;Covid studies - <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;vdmeta.com&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;vdmeta.com&#x2F;</a>
subsubzero大约 4 年前
I feel like you can be in both camps(not anti vax, but pro vitamin D) and still be right, I am. I am about to get the 2nd pfizer vaccine shot and supplement daily with vitamin D. I have had lower levels years ago and would get extremely sick during the winter&#x2F;spring. I started taking 3000IU daily and it has had a dramatic affect on my health. Colds are less severe and the duration is shorter.<p>I had my vit. D levels tested and was still a bit off optimal, this after running in the middle of the day during winter, eating meat almost daily and my previously mentioned vit. D doses. The reality is most everyone is probably not getting enough vitamin D and only a visit and a blood test from your Dr. will tell you for sure.
thelean12大约 4 年前
My problem with vitamins and supplements is that the vast majority of people who take them are self-diagnosing a deficiency or listening to random people on the internet who think they&#x27;re able to parse studies on their own.<p>For anything: go to your doctor, get blood work done, and listen to their advice. Don&#x27;t just go to CVS and pick up some pills and go to town after reading about Vitamin D on HN.
loveistheanswer大约 4 年前
When corporations censor people expressing skepticism of corporate profit motives, are they not helping to <i>reinforce</i> those beliefs?
taxicabjesus大约 4 年前
People need adequate sunlight. Sometimes people can&#x27;t make Vitamin-D from the sun, and need a Vitamin-D supplement instead. I think it&#x27;s rather dishonest to treat those who are Vitamin-D deficient as if their Vitamin-D deficiency isn&#x27;t actually a core aspect of their health problem.<p>&gt; But governments have taken up other cheap, effective treatments like dexamethasone, once proven.<p>There seems to be a lack of interest in finding non-vaccine treatments by the medical Gatekeepers. The gist I get from many people is that &#x27;none of the repurposed drugs that&#x27;ve been looked at actually help, vaccines are the only way out of this mess.&#x27;<p>But what if a &quot;cheap, effective treatment&quot; was out there, but was not widely deployed on account of good experiences with repurposed drugs&#x2F;etc not receiving coverage from the medical hierarchy?<p>I&#x27;ve read that the core problem of finding a cheap, effective treatment for COVID-19 is that the emergency use authorization for the vaccines would have to be pulled:<p><pre><code> During a public health emergency, the FDA can use its Emergency Use Authorization (EUA) authority to allow the use of unapproved medical products, or unapproved uses of approved medical products, to diagnose, treat, or prevent serious or life-threatening diseases when certain criteria are met, including that there are no adequate, approved, and available alternatives. </code></pre> - <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.fda.gov&#x2F;medical-devices&#x2F;coronavirus-disease-2019-covid-19-emergency-use-authorizations-medical-devices&#x2F;faqs-emergency-use-authorizations-euas-medical-devices-during-covid-19-pandemic" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.fda.gov&#x2F;medical-devices&#x2F;coronavirus-disease-2019...</a><p>Remdesivir is also being used for COVID-19 on an EUA: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.accessdata.fda.gov&#x2F;drugsatfda_docs&#x2F;nda&#x2F;2020&#x2F;EUA%20Review%20Remdesivir_050120.pdf" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.accessdata.fda.gov&#x2F;drugsatfda_docs&#x2F;nda&#x2F;2020&#x2F;EUA%...</a> (Remdesivir is not an approved drug for any other condition, it&#x27;s a failed ebola drug. <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Remdesivir#Medical_uses" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Remdesivir#Medical_uses</a> )<p>Some doctors have found that the anti-serotonin drug Cyproheptadine (approved and in use everywhere as an antihistamine) is almost a magic bullet for severe cases of COVID-19. One of these is Farid Jalali, M.D., who makes the case that severe COVID-19 is a serotonin syndrome without the usual drug trigger. &quot;An ideal scenario to prevent the hyperserotonergic multi-organ failure that is inherent to severe COVID19 would be a combination of reducing pool of bioavailable serotonin (early SSRI) combined with, if severe disease occurs, a direct serotonin antagonist (cyproheptadine)&quot; [0] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;twitter.com&#x2F;farid__jalali&#x2F;status&#x2F;1350149930954878976" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;twitter.com&#x2F;farid__jalali&#x2F;status&#x2F;1350149930954878976</a><p>&quot;I can personally attest to the gatekeeping being fueled by greed (pharma) and arrogance (“thought leaders”). We barely squeezed heparin and steroids in there due to sheer brute force against above gatekeeping.&quot; [1] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;twitter.com&#x2F;farid__jalali&#x2F;status&#x2F;1377669778794418176" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;twitter.com&#x2F;farid__jalali&#x2F;status&#x2F;1377669778794418176</a><p>&quot;The more I see how things go, the more I feel like the whole &quot;RCT-only-science&quot; is a gatekeeping attempt, truly reflecting &quot;we-are-the-only-ones-who-can-get-FDA&#x2F;NHS&#x2F;HealthCanada-to-let-us-run-the-RCT&quot; The whole fucking game is rigged folks. That&#x27;s why we are where we are.&quot; [2] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;twitter.com&#x2F;farid__jalali&#x2F;status&#x2F;1379107965060276228" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;twitter.com&#x2F;farid__jalali&#x2F;status&#x2F;1379107965060276228</a><p>I don&#x27;t think Dr. Jalali is doing anything especially revolutionary, he&#x27;s just trying his best to practice good conventional medicine, and he&#x27;s fed up with &quot;gatekeeping&quot; keeping effective and cheap treatments from being widely used to pull COVID-19 patients out of their death spirals.<p>I think the self-appointed gatekeepers to Science (TM) can&#x27;t allow effective non-vaccine treatments to gain foothold, as that would cancel most people&#x27;s motivation to get vaccinated. If the vaccines&#x27; EUA was pulled because acceptable treatments with drugs already approved for other uses became known, COVID-19 vaccines could only be re-deployed after full safety studies have been completed. This would be a disaster for the medical gatekeepers.<p>Maybe some of you don&#x27;t believe there&#x27;s any dishonesty in Humanity&#x27;s COVID-19 experience. I&#x27;d appreciate a comment, rather than a downvote. Thanks.
vfclists大约 4 年前
The silence of the corporate media on Ivermectin is so deafening.<p>Dear BBC how about a mention of Ivermectin from you. We await with bated breath.
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dionian大约 4 年前
&gt; Vitamin D is relatively safe (although few medical interventions are entirely risk-free, especially at high doses) so it may not appear to be the most harmful of misinformation.<p>it&#x27;s shocking that journalists are calling anything which isnt proven fully proven or universally accepted &#x27;misinformation&#x27;, when it very likely could have a beneficial effect with basically 0 downside.<p>this is extremely dangerous and highly Orwellian.
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