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Establishing Twitter's Presence in Africa

61 点作者 kpetermeni大约 4 年前

26 条评论

dang大约 4 年前
All: please don&#x27;t post snarky and&#x2F;or unsubstantive comments and please don&#x27;t post in the flamewar style. None of that is what HN is for. It&#x27;s tedious, and it leads to repetitive, lower-quality threads.<p>Perhaps you don&#x27;t owe $BigCo better, but you owe this community better if you&#x27;re participating in it.<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;newsguidelines.html" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;newsguidelines.html</a>
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qmarchi大约 4 年前
For all of the snark that is coming from other commenters, I&#x27;m excited to see more engineering talent being pulled to more diverse locations than &quot;the Bay Area&quot; and the rest of the US. Technology and Engineering is not limited to one or two countries, and having a presence in a place the is missing opportunity seems like a win.<p>Admittedly, Twitter is not my first choice of employer, but it could&#x27;ve been worse. Could&#x27;ve been Facebook.
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aberkowitz大约 4 年前
I spent a year in Ghana in 2017, and I had the pleasure of meeting numerous software engineers and tech entrepreneurs who were doing extremely high quality work for 1-2k USD &#x2F; month (if they were lucky). Having companies like twitter on the African continent will provide massive economic opportunity, and social mobility.
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fshbbdssbbgdd大约 4 年前
A lot of people seem to think this is bad because it looks like colonialism. I think that’s a bad take. Indeed there’s an evil history of western exploitation of Africans. That consists of territorial conquest, slavery, stripping of natural resources.<p>Every country that managed to get out of poverty did it by moving up the value chain from subsistence farming to eg. textile manufacturing to eg. electronics.<p>Here, Twitter is hiring knowledge workers and paying them a good wage. They aren’t enslaving anyone. Ghana is growing a middle class, entering the tech industry, and will be able to enjoy a bigger share of the wealth created in the global economy. It’s great news.
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DoreenMichele大约 4 年前
<i>Aligned with our existing WFH policies, we look forward to welcoming and onboarding our new team members remotely so that we can make an immediate impact while we explore the opportunity to open an office in Ghana in the future.<p>Why Ghana?<p>As a champion for democracy, Ghana is a supporter of free speech, online freedom, and the Open Internet, of which Twitter is also an advocate.</i><p>I&#x27;m impressed with how much they have thought about some of the logistics here. If you are running a business and trying to learn how to grow bigger, this is something to pay attention to and contemplate.
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hyperrail大约 4 年前
Microsoft has has software development centers in Kenya and Nigeria for a couple years now. [1] I&#x27;m glad to see other western tech companies moving into sub-Saharan Africa. Hope it&#x27;s a trend - at MSFT we had some success there!<p>[1] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.microsoft.com&#x2F;en-xm&#x2F;features&#x2F;furthering-our-investment-in-africa-microsoft-opens-first-africa-development-centre-in-kenya-and-nigeria&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.microsoft.com&#x2F;en-xm&#x2F;features&#x2F;furthering-our-inv...</a>
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kaladin_1大约 4 年前
The comments on the thread surprises me. Some seem to imply that this a negative development.<p>Whereas in Africa here people are happy for this development.<p>I can assure you that the only eyebrows raised are so because every country feels Twitter should have come to theirs. This is big win for Ghana. In fact, many Nigerians are chastising their government at the moment for not being able to attract Twitter due to their instability and corruption
dsg42大约 4 年前
Really great move by Twitter. There&#x27;s lots of amazing programmers in African countries like Ghana and Nigeria, but not enough employers are taking advantage. I suspect Twitter will be the first of many companies to start hiring in the region.
cblconfederate大约 4 年前
&gt; Ghana is a supporter of free speech, online freedom, and the Open Internet, of which Twitter is also an advocate<p>Well this sounds great, maybe Ghana will teach twitter their values. Sounds like a great move overall
vmception大约 4 年前
I think worldwide that this entire discussion about Africa is too reductive.<p>Like, even here the title and the African director are writing about the African community but referring to an improving sector within Ghana.<p>This in turn has the rest of us continuing to talk about Africa in an unnuanced and defensive or unproductive way.<p>A regional data center serving the African continent is establishing presence in Africa. This would be the same standard as other infrastructure projects in other continents.<p>A hiring practice or office in a city in one country is establishing a presence in that country. This would be the same standard as other company expansions in other countries.<p>I think this is a humble ask, as people are excited about attention to the African continent and integration to the global growth community, however there are very many hurdles towards a unified African market and I don&#x27;t really think thats the focus or most productive goal. It is a fiction to refer to it as such for a place with 50 to 100 regional markets, almost infinite permutations with their own problems and benefits.
bogomipz大约 4 年前
&gt;&quot;To truly serve the public conversation, we must be more immersed in the rich and vibrant communities that drive the conversations taking place every day across the African continent.&quot;<p>So they correctly acknowledge that those communities are already engaged in conversations. How does encouraging these same folks to Tweet at each other improve upon the way they are already conversing? Twitter seems to have appropriated the word &quot;conversation&quot; the same way Facebook has done for the word &quot;friend&quot;. That is to say completely redefined it to suit their own business objectives.<p>I&#x27;m glad they&#x27;re hiring in Africa. There&#x27;s tons of really smart people there doing interesting things. It&#x27;s also a very young place per capita. Why couldn&#x27;t they just say as much though and leave it at that? Instead they decided couch the whole thing in this cringeworthy bit of &quot;noblesse oblige.&quot;
spoonjim大约 4 年前
There are a lot of Ghanaians in Silicon Valley (relative to other African countries). I wonder how many of them will take this opportunity to move back home. One problem though is at least right now you’d be tied to one employer.
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Ekaros大约 4 年前
Good for them, that is pulling money from big companies. To local economies with minimal spending of natural resources. Sometimes you have to work with evil to do good for local community. I just hope they have sense not get too involved on platform itself.<p>Reasonable out-sourcing can be pretty good for a country. I just hope Twitter doesn&#x27;t steal market share from local companies with this...
darkwizard42大约 4 年前
Was kind of surprised they didn&#x27;t pick a place like Kenya (Nairobi is a huge international hub). The reasons for Ghana seem great, but again, wasn&#x27;t the first choice I thought they might make!
seriousquestion大约 4 年前
&gt; Twitter’s mission is to serve the public conversation<p>How&#x27;s that going, would you say?
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rgovostes大约 4 年前
Because Twitter has really elevated the level of conversation in the West.
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Fellshard大约 4 年前
&gt; Twitter’s mission is to serve the public conversation<p>And in the first several words, they&#x27;ve already lied through their teeth. It is very clear that Twitter&#x27;s primary desire is to steer and shape conversation. One look at the &#x27;passive voice&#x27; editorializing of their &#x27;trending&#x27; feed is all it takes to confirm that.
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coldtea大约 4 年前
Yeah, if Africa lacked something it was Twitter
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xyzzy21大约 4 年前
Even the Western world would be better off without Twitter. Expanding its cancer to Africa seems like Crime Against Humanity at this point.
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throwawaysea大约 4 年前
I understand Twitter is already accessible to African users, and this blog post is about expanding Twitter&#x27;s employment presence in Africa. That said, I really don&#x27;t want to see Twitter or other Western technology companies extend their tentacles further into Asia or Africa. The immense influence these Silicon Valley companies have in shaping public conversation and culture threatens all other cultures and diversity of thought globally. The adoption of Twitter amounts to digital colonization, a vehicle for cultural globalization that homogenizes societies in the shape of American progressive culture.<p>I really find Twitter&#x27;s blog post to be deceptive and tone deaf. For example consider this:<p>&gt; As a champion for democracy, Ghana is a supporter of free speech, online freedom, and the Open Internet, of which Twitter is also an advocate.<p>Twitter heavily censors moderates and conservatives in America on any controversial topic that is current - whether that is COVID-19, or gender identity, or immigration, or whatever else. Africa is a lot more conservative than Silicon Valley and holds very different viewpoints on life, morality, ethics, law, politics, etc. Is Twitter going to censor African users and steer their speech as well? If so how can it possibly claim to be an advocate for free speech at all?<p>Another problematic statement:<p>&gt; We still have much to learn but we are excited to listen, learn, and engage. Public conversation is essential to solving problems, building shared ideas, and pushing us all forward together.<p>When has Twitter ever listened to those who think differently from its employee base? I don&#x27;t think Twitter has listened or learned at all, even in the US where it is reasonable to expect that they would understand their user base better and cater to all viewpoints better. Instead, their playbook seems to be to impose the worldview of their employees and vocal activists on the entire planet. Whether intended or not, the effect of Twitter&#x27;s adoption in other nations is propagandist, and I find it to be as repulsive as physical colonization.<p>I hope users in Africa are alert enough to realize that they should use a local platform, or at least one that is more honestly in favor of free speech, rather than one originating from Silicon Valley. European leaders are already waking up to the existential threat Western influence poses to their culture (<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.nytimes.com&#x2F;2021&#x2F;02&#x2F;09&#x2F;world&#x2F;europe&#x2F;france-threat-american-universities.html" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.nytimes.com&#x2F;2021&#x2F;02&#x2F;09&#x2F;world&#x2F;europe&#x2F;france-threa...</a>), and China was of course well ahead of other nations in seeing the threat of cultural erasure coming from America. Africa, a continent on the rise and on a path towards global prominence, should be similarly wise.
cirgue大约 4 年前
The utter absence of self awareness on the part of Twitter is really impressive. Like it took either enormous brass balls, monumental stupidity, or enthusiastic self deception to write and stand behind that press release. Twitter exists to make money from ad revenue and has consistently demonstrated zero credible concern for any objective that isn’t furthering that interest.
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drngxn大约 4 年前
Digital colonialism
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tacker2000大约 4 年前
Hooray to the next woke “mission” trying to “save” the “doomed” continent!
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S53Vflnr4n大约 4 年前
Twitter infects Africa.
ronsor大约 4 年前
Welp. Africa is doomed now.
kristjank大约 4 年前
Yup, we definitely need to have one of the biggest groupthink platforms instated in one of the most unstable regions of the Old World. Great job, guys! &#x2F;s