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Linus Torvalds says GPL v3 violates everything that GPLv2 stood for (2014)

120 点作者 naetius大约 4 年前

10 条评论

antattack大约 4 年前
Also Linus: GPL V3 is a fine license.<p>Overall Linus Torvalds did not like how V3 was forced onto &#x27;unsuspecting&#x27; GPL v2 users due to the &#x27;or later&#x27; license assignment.
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marcodiego大约 4 年前
Deepest differences between GPLv3 and v2 are:<p>* Antitivoization clause: it bars its use in software that will only run if signatures are required. This guarantees freedom 0 (freedom to use the software) will not be circumvented and discourages vendors from shipping hardware that requires signed software.<p>* Antipatent clause: The license is revoked from an attacker if patents are used to attack users of the software.<p>These clauses maybe desired in some cases. Probably, a sensible direction could be to add flags to the GPLv2 to particularly enable these clauses. Somewhat similar to how it is done with CC licenses which may have BY, SA, or NC flags.
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st_goliath大约 4 年前
It appears to me that the complaints in the video seem to go more towards the problems of license compatibility (or lack of backwards compatibility) between GPLv2 vs GPLv3 creating tons of problems with outside contributions to the kernel <i>if the typical &quot;or later&quot; clause</i> was used.<p>Some of the other commenters here seem to stress the Tivoization clause, but it appears to me that that is not the real issue. Linus even says so, at one point when the guy asking the questions repeatedly tries to stress that point.
SeanLuke大约 4 年前
I am not familiar with the Tivoization issue, but v3 solves one showstopper problem with v2: v2 has no real patent release. To me this puts v2 in the same category as MIT&#x2F;X11 and BSD: archaic licenses that no one should ever use except for the most trivial of projects.<p>Linux is chock full of potential patent release deathtraps: that it is still using v2 is kinda scary.
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bombcar大约 4 年前
&quot;or (at your option) any later version&quot; is probably the most insidious line in any license anywhere ever - as arguably the GPLv3 is incompatible with the GPLv2 without that.<p>And we&#x27;re seeing that the GPLv3 didn&#x27;t &quot;solve&quot; the problems it was meant to solve and now we have multiplications of &quot;open source&quot; licenses designed to protect business models.
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systemvoltage大约 4 年前
Top comment on YT:<p>&gt; I love Linus so much. He has opinions and doesn&#x27;t hold back with them.<p>Yep, this is the steve jobs era people that were straightforward. Linus can be a lot better with his initial reaction &quot;It&#x27;s horrible&quot; but you can see through the outer shell that he is a really reasonable person and doesn&#x27;t come across as this evil lord archetype people push on him. His knee-jerk reactions are so outlandish that after a while you just dismiss them as comedy.<p>Our society is eradicating people with strong opinions. It&#x27;s is a huge loss.
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ddtaylor大约 4 年前
&quot;The FSF is full of crazy bigoted people&quot; (Linus Torvalds 2014)
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temp667大约 4 年前
Thank goodness the FSF basically failed.<p>Linus - FSF is &quot;filled with crazy bigoted people&quot;<p>Then the guy keeps on going on how &quot;we&quot; can get Linus to stop. Who is this &quot;We&quot; attacking linus?
taf2大约 4 年前
My favorite quote from Linus in this talk:<p>&quot;When somebody else wrote the code, you don&#x27;t get that choice, right?&quot;
ChrisArchitect大约 4 年前
this isn&#x27;t really news -- it&#x27;s a historical commentary now, his aversion&#x2F;issues with GPL evolution are well documented from multiple articles&#x2F;appearances. The whole discussion in here is all in past tense.