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Show HN: Human Lambdas – Create Human in the Loop queues and outsource them

107 点作者 bernatfp大约 4 年前

26 条评论

sam_goody大约 4 年前
You know, this exact same idea could be done in such a way that doesn&#x27;t dehumanize the, uh, humans.<p>In fact, I bet your mileage would even increase if you could figure out a way to actually respect even the grunt laborers.<p>That is, I like the idea of streamlining your workflow, of compartmentalizing, of assembly lining. I like the ideas of integrating that which can be fully automated with what cannot. And of making tools to increase these objectives<p>But your teams will see the labels on the tools, and the sites that vend them. If they feel they are being &quot;cogged&quot;, they will work like cogs. The site should mix the terms that describe their goal, with terms that respect humans as humans. It would sell better to the workers, and I suspect that in smaller companies and companies that have smaller teams, would sell better to the managers as well.
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benjaminjosephw大约 4 年前
&gt; Outsource tedious, repetitive and boring work to our workforce in just a couple of clicks.<p>This is exactly how you create an environment that is just asking for regulation and rightly so if you show such disregard for other people.<p>Explicitly treating human laborers in more-or-less the same way you treat a machine is unethical design as well as being an ugly and harmful philosophy. You are literally building a system that enables dehumanizing labor. Is this the kind of future you&#x27;re happy being a part of building?
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lwansbrough大约 4 年前
I actually think this is a great idea. If I’m understanding it correctly, it’s essentially Amazon MechanicalTurk for people in your company?<p>Paired with some capabilities for building custom interfaces (if that doesn’t already exist), this would allow many less savvy companies slowly integrate their human processes into their software processes. Of course there’s something to be said about making human redundancy so interactive and personal for the victim, but from a cost savings&#x2F;business standpoint it’s probably hard to ignore the potential value.<p>Good luck! I may pitch this to my team next time we need something semi-automated (btw you’re kind of competing with Slack bots, that’s what we use now.)
sanitycheck大约 4 年前
What next, human Kubernetes? (No no no it&#x27;s a Joke, Deliveroo and Uber staff, don&#x27;t you dare paste that into Slack)
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lsb大约 4 年前
Interesting launch!<p>0) Why is this better than MTurk&#x27;s predefined workflows?<p>1) How much does it cost?? MTurk charges min(0.005, 10%) for each Human Intelligence Task.<p>2) How is quality checked???<p>3) People doing tasks generally report greater satisfaction and generally produce greater accuracy with a smaller topic shift (instead of doing NLP classification about everything at all times, first do topic A, then topic B). I bet you could train a simple classifier to group topics together
weatherlight大约 4 年前
Heres an idea. It&#x27;s not novel or revolutionary.<p>Maybe the the abject alienation from the product of one’s labor is a bad idea...
tgv大约 4 年前
I thought they were called Epsilons.
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wildermuthn大约 4 年前
A quick look over their docs, and I think this is a terrific product that needs a better landing page. They make it easy to build a custom task with a UI builder, and more importantly, they also automatically exposes programmatic means of adding tasks and receiving task completion data. This makes “do things that don’t scale” somewhat more scalable. Looking forward to trying it out!
weeboid大约 4 年前
I honestly can&#x27;t tell if this is satire or no; leaning towards former
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aequitas大约 4 年前
We had something like this for a project which would allow you to create multiple CDN accounts using a single interface. Where some CDN&#x27;s could not be automated by API or we didn&#x27;t have the time (yet) to implement. So the default API implementation was the FrankAPI (named after the guy handling the manual requests). It would create a pending database record and Frank would get an email with details and the instructions along with a link to a Django page to fill the record with details when the CDN was created. It was so simple and efficient. We loved the solution, he loved the solution. It was great. Though we where all more tech minded people, so talking with computers was natural to us. I don&#x27;t know how these kind of interfaces would pan out for other kinds of people, if they would miss the human aspect in the interaction?
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evrydayhustling大约 4 年前
You&#x27;re getting a lot of comments on the naming&#x2F;presentation that I think are worth considering, but I want to say that the tool itself looks great. There are so many workflows that we twist into pretzels, and over-engineer one interface point or another, because we don&#x27;t have a way to trivially put a human interface in the right spot. I will 100% try this.<p>With that said, I see a big blocker to many use cases. One of the main reasons you add humans to workflows is to deal with unstructured data, which can often be sensitive. Have you considered offering a managed service or self-hosted option so that orgs can control their own data flow?
dmd大约 4 年前
This is essentially how the young lady&#x27;s illustrated primer works in The Diamond Age.
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prepend大约 4 年前
I find these cognitive surplus [0] really promising. If not for identifying the people for whom a task is easy. It’s always neat to me how some things are easy or hard for people and the time is spent trying to match this effectively.<p>I have a friend who is a regex expert and can answer in seconds what takes me hours. But I’d never want a thousand people to ask vim each arcane question in case ve also knows the answer for that topic.<p>[0] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Cognitive_Surplus" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Cognitive_Surplus</a>
Closi大约 4 年前
This is great - I could use something like this (without having to face into Mechanical Turk), and definitely would use this if the pricing was right.<p>What&#x27;s the pricing structure?
motohagiography大约 4 年前
Impressive, we could instrument a lot of municipal licensing and public service form filling with these templates. It&#x27;s like kiosk applications as a service.<p>I&#x27;m interpreting that it&#x27;s like taking the features of a PowerBI app, but something with less overhead, and more accessible to smaller orgs.
tluyben2大约 4 年前
Amazon Mechnical Turk for your own team?
kjrose大约 4 年前
So, from what I can tell it&#x27;s essentially a Mechanical Turk for someone&#x27;s personal team. However, I&#x27;m trying to figure out if it offers Mechanical Turk style offerings as well, where you can just pay for some random person to do the job?
monkeydust大约 4 年前
Bit depressing for humanity. Looking at the task list I would hope they could be automated and not require a human cog in the not to distant future.
stevesimmons大约 4 年前
This looks like a great piece of tooling for when you don&#x27;t need a full workflow system.<p>What other similar solution are in this space?
kazinator大约 4 年前
&quot;Okay, now do you see a note labeled X in your immediate scope? Let me know the value ...&quot;
dekhn大约 4 年前
IBM used to call this &quot;BPEL&quot;
xbar大约 4 年前
Awful.
edoceo大约 4 年前
isnt this what Amazon Mechanical Turk does?
ngvrnd大约 4 年前
who said &quot;Insort Geront&quot;?
mahesh_rm大约 4 年前
Pricing?
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jdub大约 4 年前
&quot;Human Lambdas&quot;… &quot;Mechanical Turk&quot;… you&#x27;re fully aware these are horrible names for horrible ideas, right?
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