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Problems with ancient musical scales

22 点作者 boris1大约 4 年前

5 条评论

jancsika大约 4 年前
So people with perfect pitch often complain about headaches when, say, a choir starts to lose pitch. This is because they can hear how the pitches sung by the choir have drifted away from the pitches notated on in the part they are reading from. That knowledge can apparently be quite distracting.<p>However, I have <i>never</i> heard a student with perfect pitch complain or even inquire about internal inconsistencies in tuning that would lead to comma drift. E.g., &quot;Hey, I was practicing singing C-G-D-A-E-C and I ended up slightly off from the C I started with. What gives?&quot; I&#x27;ve never heard of a student stumbling upon anything like this <i>independent of</i> reading a text about the problems of tuning systems.
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xyzzy21大约 4 年前
These are NOT problems - they are simply differences. They happen to not be as &quot;convenient&quot; as the 100% artificial system INVENTED several centuries ago which is not necessarily better than more ancient systems. Equal tempered IS MISTUNED because it&#x27;s a &quot;forced, contrived system&quot;.<p>In many ways you get more sophisticated expression from older systems because they are more tuned to both empirical physics and biology, rather than abstracted CONSTRUCTED for convenience.
8bitsrule大约 4 年前
It&#x27;s now possible to view all 2048 scales (but hear only one), here. (This topic reminds me of that of prime numbers in many ways.)<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=fzee0jwMqpw" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=fzee0jwMqpw</a><p>(Bonus mind-melter: Double Harmonic Major. <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=7-HZXm61Cv4" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=7-HZXm61Cv4</a> )
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atoav大约 4 年前
As someone who grew up with a detuned piano I was kinda shocked how boring a tuned one sounded like. No&#x2F;minimal beating phantom tones between similar notes. No detuned chorus between the different strings of one tone etc.<p>Our modern tonal systems make sense, but to me microtonal ones have more spice to them. Even stuff like Aphex Twin constantly uses &quot;incorrect&quot; tunings (analog gear is like that) and this makes up a signifikant part of the sound.<p>Or listen to stuff by Wendy Carlos. Just otherworldly
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smitty1e大约 4 年前
The article mentions AutoTune, which is a technically interesting innovation.<p>Yet the humanity is found in all of the tiny imperfections of the art, not the mathematical symmetries on offer.