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Ford unveils the F-150 Lightning, its all-electric pickup truck

80 点作者 billyharris大约 4 年前

12 条评论

Animats大约 4 年前
Starts just under $40K. Before federal EV incentive payments. Compares to $30.6K for the 2022 gas version. After incentives, the difference is only about $2.5K.<p>This is when electric vehicles really start taking over.
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clouddrover大约 4 年前
It isn&#x27;t Ford&#x27;s first electric pickup truck. Ford did an electric Ranger in 1997:<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Ford_Ranger_EV" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Ford_Ranger_EV</a><p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.ford-trucks.com&#x2F;articles&#x2F;ford-ranger-ev-is-a-forgotten-ford-futuremobile&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.ford-trucks.com&#x2F;articles&#x2F;ford-ranger-ev-is-a-for...</a>
obloid大约 4 年前
I was really excited about this truck until I saw they went the Tesla route with the giant touchscreen in the middle of the console. Do they think that this what EV buyers want because Tesla has it? I want a vehicle with simple tactile controls just like my ICE vehicle, but electric. Maybe I&#x27;m in the minority.
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SigmundA大约 4 年前
Looks like roughly 130kwh battery for 230 miles and 180kwh for 300 miles. Large battery is 1800lbs, about twice the size and weight of a Model 3 battery.<p>Towing range is always a problem with BEV&#x27;s, to get good range they they usually focus on aerodynamics and rolling resistance which towing completely destroys. Estimates are it will be under 100 miles range towing its maximum of 10,000lbs with the big battery.<p>Starting at $40k its easy to see how fast battery prices are falling, being a large part of the cost, it feels a lot like how quickly solar panel prices fell.<p>Main issue is still energy density, both size and weight, which is going up albeit more slowly than cost is going down and it&#x27;s being somewhat setback by everyone trying to move away from cobalt.<p>Other interesting features, all models dual motor 4WD, independent rear suspension with locker, built in scale to measure payload and tongue wieght, 9.6kw of inverter power for running AC loads off battery, optional 240v home charger that can also feed power back to a sub panel with auto switchover to act as power backup.
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aynyc大约 4 年前
I have to give Ford credit. I thought it was a mistake to make EV for its well-loved and respected product line (Mustang &amp; F150) instead of striking out on a new product line. So far, the Mach-E has rave reviews, it seems F150 will as well. It actually looks like Ford has a strategy for once.
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mensetmanusman大约 4 年前
This is needed ASAP to help the ice&gt;ev transition speed up.<p>Automakers should work together and just support Tesla charging stations. This would benefit everyone.
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plondon514大约 4 年前
The reason we ended up with a Tesla, instead of a Kona electric, or any other EV, is the charging network. Where do you charge this thing and how long does it take?<p>“You can only charge at home” doesn’t work for everyone. Maybe it does for this market though?
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youeseh大约 4 年前
Unlike a Tesla, your Ford&#x27;s price isn&#x27;t going to be the same as the MSRP. Dealers will charge what they think they can sell the vehicle for. If the demand is high, there will be a markup.
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oflannabhra大约 4 年前
If they come out with a utility van version of this (ie, Transit), I can see it becoming quite popular. With the onboard inverter and 240V, there are a ton of trades and custom campers that would immediately find use for that.<p>It would be really cool to see a solar trickle charge setup for #vanlife
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rasz大约 4 年前
&gt;Ford unveils the F-150 Lightning<p>Reality: Ford confirms existence of at least one prototype, after President has been filmed driving one.
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thrower123大约 4 年前
Anything less than a 500 mile range makes this a nonstarter compared to ICE models. Although from what I&#x27;ve read elsewhere they are putting nearly a ton (1800 pounds) of batteries in the thing. There are people who use trucks as commuters, but there are also people that are on the road or out in the puckerbrush actually working out of them. Charging infrastructure is not good, and not likely to get better overnight.<p>I think it would make a lot more sense to build a hybrid diesel to fit in this niche. Particularly if it had enough excess output to run some jobsite equipment. If you don&#x27;t need to buy a Lincoln generator to run compressors or welders, that would be a tradeoff that would be beneficial.
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theluketaylor大约 4 年前
Ford came so close to nailing it. They are doing a special EV frame, including the first independent rear suspension for F-150. 300 mile range available is great. Packaging everything extremely well to offer 400 litres in the frunk is an absolute game changer for truck owners. Re-using the F-150 body shell keeps costs down and allows them to easily provide interior feature parity. 9.6 kW to run your home and tons of 20 amp plugs to run tools and tailgating is brilliant. 10,000 lbs towing and 1800-2000 lbs payload is great.<p>Then they fell flat on their faces: 41 minutes 15-80% charging. That charging curve is simply not acceptable when Hyundai&#x27;s Ionic 5 has the same starting price and is about 20 minutes 10-80%.
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