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U.S. has almost 500k job openings in cybersecurity

79 点作者 WellDressed大约 4 年前

12 条评论

whoknew1122大约 4 年前
How many of those job postings list a CISSP or 5 years for an entry-level job that pays $70k? This is stuff I see often.<p>I have extensive experience in cloud security environments, have done IR, DR&#x2F;BCP planning, passed SOC II audits, and have security cert(s). But I&#x27;d have a hard time finding a security engineering job that pays similarly to what I get paid currently as a support engineer for AWS&#x27;s security services. And that&#x27;s largely because most security jobs I see are asking for unicorns willing to get paid substantially less than other IT disciplines.
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iamAy0大约 4 年前
I&#x27;ve reading about this &quot;security professionals shortage&quot; for quite some years, yet the reality is that there is no such shortage.<p>And I think this is even expandable now to any IT field. People keep saying about shortage, but what I do see is exhausting hiring process most people just don&#x27;t want to deal with.
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AtlasBarfed大约 4 年前
Well, since ultimately this involves codewords dancing around the &quot;don&#x27;t want to pay proper wage&quot;, America&#x27;s companies should instead hand their security over to outsourcing firms like they do with everything else that is IT related?<p>What could go wrong? Make sure to diversify to China, Russia, Eastern Europe, Malaysia, Israel etc.<p>Oh does that sound like a bad idea? The fact is as soon as the main systems development is outsourced, you might as well have outsourced the security too.<p>Probably why most enterprise security is a bunch of people buying Cisco appliances and formulating checklists and policies and don&#x27;t even know specific vulnerabilities or the safety degree of various algorithms.<p>And of course, their main job, making powerpoints for upper management and occupying seats&#x2F;budget such that when leaks or failures occur upper management has plausible deniability.
shiftpgdn大约 4 年前
I am a Sr. devops engineer and have been looking to transition to a devsecops or even some sort of security ops role for a YEAR. I am willing to take a pay cut and move to a more junior role but I can never pass the HR filter of “prior security experience needed.”
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DigitallyFidget大约 4 年前
I wish these supposed jobs existed when I finished my degree for going into cybersecurity, unfortunately EVERY &quot;entry level&quot; job required 3-5 years experience. It&#x27;s probably exactly the same today. Now I work in electrical engineering, because the position requested (not required) a background in IT and my hobbyist experience was enough to satisfy the rest of the requirements.
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merricksb大约 4 年前
Discussed 3 days ago:<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=27219156" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=27219156</a> (88 points&#x2F;94 comments)
anothernewdude将近 4 年前
&gt; &quot;It just requires someone who has the proper training, proper certification<p>Certification? I don&#x27;t think so, why would you even...<p>&gt; Tim Herbert, executive vice president for research at CompTIA.<p>Ahhh... it&#x27;s an advertisement for a bad certification program.
bpodgursky大约 4 年前
Meta on the comments: While it&#x27;s true that the salaries are unreasonably low, it doesn&#x27;t mean that there are 500k Americans capable of doing cybersecurity work just waiting for the right paycheck.<p>There can be _both_ a worker shortage and unreasonable salary expectations. A labor market will always have slack on both sides, but even at the extreme, there could be 10 cybersecurity experts, and you&#x27;d have people saying &quot;Oh, you can find workers, you just have to be willing to pay $100mm&#x2F;yr.&quot;
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etaioinshrdlu大约 4 年前
I don&#x27;t know any security professionals. Is this something that a mostly-self-taught software engineer could get a job in? What are interviews typically like?
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hparadiz大约 4 年前
The salary they mentioned in the article is too low when the downside is millions in payout
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a3n大约 4 年前
Well that oughta get all those waiters and cashiers off unemployment.
fullshark大约 4 年前
No one wants to pay big money to improve the talent in a cost center.