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Wyoming site of new nuclear power plant from Bill Gates' TerraPower

199 点作者 spenrose将近 4 年前

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mustafa_pasi将近 4 年前
There are quite a few interesting aspects about this project. I&#x27;ll try to summarize as I remember.<p>The reactor uses molten salt to cool the core. Unlike conventional reactors the generated heat is not pumped directly into a heat exchanger to generate steam, but is instead pumped into a storage tank. The same tank can then be accessed from outside the nuclear building, which they claim, allows them to build the whole power station component to industrial standards rather than nuclear power plant standards, which is a cost saving.<p>The more interesting aspect of the molten salt storage tank is that it is effective a huge battery. It can be used to ramp up the power to meet demand without having to touch the core. This means that such nuclear power plants could work well in conjunction with intermittent energy sources (wind, solar, ...etc) without the need for a gas peaker plant. In the past a big problem with nuclear was that it was an all or nothing option, as people thought it was not compatible with other kinds of energy sources due to its inability to react quickly to meet demand. This is very promising.
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SavantIdiot将近 4 年前
Perfect location: Wyoming is already the biggest net energy supplier in the country [1] so it has the required grid access, and also the 2nd lowest population density [2], next to Alaska (excluding Jackson which has become a mecca for billionaires for some reason).<p>[1] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.eia.gov&#x2F;state&#x2F;?sid=WY" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.eia.gov&#x2F;state&#x2F;?sid=WY</a><p>[2] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;List_of_states_and_territories_of_the_United_States_by_population_density" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;List_of_states_and_territories...</a>
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aeturnum将近 4 年前
&quot;The exact location of the new reactor is still up in the air.&quot; Yah? Good luck. Siting these things is hard.<p>There are some papers about how experts are worse at predicting the success of a nuclear reactor than members of the general public. I have the impression that project timelines don&#x27;t give the socialization phase enough time and then, when it is constricted, the phase will sprawl.<p>On one hand, there are a lot of folks who are quite sure they&#x27;ve settled on a set of good techniques to manage nuclear waste. On the other hand, individual communities that might host nuclear sites keep not being convinced that the selected techniques are &#x27;safe.&#x27; The environment is such that the US has not been able to officially designate a site for waste[1] (or settled on a plan to reprocess waste or agree to a framework wherein it could participate in a coalition of nuclear states to...).<p>You can&#x27;t make all the people happy all of the time but our inability to keep anyone happy any of the time distresses me.<p>[1] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Yucca_Mountain_nuclear_waste_repository" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Yucca_Mountain_nuclear_waste_r...</a>
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cbHXBY1D将近 4 年前
Similarly, Washington’s Grant County recently signed a deal with NuScale Power for the development of small modular reactors in central Washington.<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.kuow.org&#x2F;stories&#x2F;more-nuclear-energy-could-be-coming-to-central-washington-as-grant-county-explores-small-scale" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.kuow.org&#x2F;stories&#x2F;more-nuclear-energy-could-be-co...</a>
natch将近 4 年前
I did not realize that TerraPower is actually a spin-off from Nathan Myrholt’s company Intellectual Ventures, widely viewed as a patent troll. Not sure it’s relevant to anything, but interesting.
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ChuckMcM将近 4 年前
This is a good sign. At one time it was going to burn previously used fuel rods from other reactors (which simultaneously generates power and cuts down on stored nuclear waste). Not quite a breeder reactor, it does make fuel as it operates and then burns it.<p>From a whitepaper[1] Bill Gates discussed how the reactor would start with &quot;some&quot; fuel and a bunch of depleted uranium. It would then convert the DU into plutonium (PU) and burn it. Letting it run a very long time without refueling and for lower cost.<p>On their web site they show a two stage heat transfer system (primary sodium loop and secondary loop) that isolates the reactor&#x27;s loop from the loop used to generate power. And finally the fact that you gravity feed the control rods in and it stops, while running at ambient air pressure means that things like the explosions that popped the top off the Fukishima reactors can&#x27;t happen.<p>[1] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;heep.hks.harvard.edu&#x2F;files&#x2F;heep&#x2F;files&#x2F;day_4_sess_1_terrapower_for_lassiter.pdf" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;heep.hks.harvard.edu&#x2F;files&#x2F;heep&#x2F;files&#x2F;day_4_sess_1_t...</a>
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natch将近 4 年前
Anyone know why these things are taking so long to build? We’ve been hearing about them for many years now. Permits, materials, sure, but I would think the Department of Energy would help move things along.
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MichaelMoser123将近 4 年前
<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.sciencemag.org&#x2F;news&#x2F;2020&#x2F;10&#x2F;department-energy-picks-two-advanced-nuclear-reactors-demonstration-projects" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.sciencemag.org&#x2F;news&#x2F;2020&#x2F;10&#x2F;department-energy-pi...</a> an older article that talks about the TerraPower reactor mentioned in the article, they say that it has to run on 20% enriched Uranium, wouldn&#x27;t that have the potential to create problems with nuclear proliferation?<p>interesting that only one company seems to be working on a thorium cycle reactor <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;flibe-energy.com&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;flibe-energy.com&#x2F;</a> . Why don&#x27;t they invest more into this direction, instead?
19h将近 4 年前
For the European users: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;archive.is&#x2F;iHdFs" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;archive.is&#x2F;iHdFs</a>
nhoughto将近 4 年前
Am I wrong to think this is progress? Always hard to know how likely these things are to actually work out.<p>I was disappointed that TerraPower in China never got going, bc trade-war. The inside bill&#x27;s brain episode about it all was great.
whereistimbo将近 4 年前
&gt; Nuclear power plants also occupy much less land than solar and wind farms, which people in Wyoming complain can be an eyesore.<p>lol
1MachineElf将近 4 年前
Gates missed his opportunity to give it the poignant name <i>Terror power</i>.
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notorandit将近 4 年前
Europeans are not allowed read that article because the site owner cannot guarantee GDPR compliance.