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NYTimes.com daily uniques down ~40% since paywall implementation

39 点作者 yakto将近 14 年前

11 条评论

mrkurt将近 14 年前
Keep in mind that most ad funded sites on the internet have excess unique/impression inventory, even 40% excess at times. So there are three numbers to consider here:<p>1) Increased subscription revenue<p>2) <i>Sold</i> inventory they've lost<p>3) Effect on pricing of remaining inventory<p>Oddly enough, a site like the NYT might be able to make more money off ads with less impressions (#3 up there). There are two reasons for this, the first is their brand value. People want their ads on NYT, scarcer supply means they'll have to pay more to do that, and some of them will.<p>The second is a change in demographics. I would guess that the lost traffic is disproportionately less valuable demographics. I, for instance, am not a great demographic for advertisers. My dad is, though, and NYT is still getting his impressions.<p>As an example of what this might mean, imagine that anyone who made less than, say, $150k/year stopped visiting Reddit. They'd lose a huge amount of traffic, but the value of the remaining traffic would make their sellable demographics outstanding.
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ghshephard将近 14 年前
Has the NYTimes.com paywall really influenced someone who read the website previously? When I'm browsing from chrome, I justly click Cmd+Shift+N prior to going there (launches incognito mode in chrome with a fresh set of cookies.)<p>When I'm browsing from my iPhone, I just click the little "x" at the top of the screen to stop the javascript from loading after the content has been downloaded - basically stops my iPhone from loading the paywall code, but loads all the content.<p>I always thought the paywall was really just to prevent the print subscribers from canceling their print subscription and switching over to web only - it convinces them they are getting value with their subscription. The Paywall itself was left deliberately leaky for people who only connected to it via the web.<p>But, based on the stats, it looks like there may be a large audience of casual subscribes that have been deterred from visiting the website - I'm sure that must be troubling for the NYT.
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donohoe将近 14 年前
As a former NYT developer (I left a month ago) but still in touch with my colleagues I can say there is a drop in Uniques and Page Views.<p>However, nothing like 40% and also within the internal predictions as far as I can tell.<p>I don't know that the Subscription policy is a run-away success for the NYT but it's certainly doing well.<p>I say this as a person who originally thought it was a bad idea.
yakto将近 14 年前
Interestingly, Google should still be counting those who click through to a NYTimes article, hit the paywall, and bounce. So the 40% drop is the result of 1) users not clicking NYTimes links anymore, or 2) fewer NYTimes links being presented to users, perhaps due to a drop in SERPs.<p>I'm a datapoint of only one, but #1 above certainly applies in my case. I find myself much less likely to click through, especially on my mobile device, because I'm annoyed when I find myself above the monthly free limit. After hitting the limit a couple of months, I just stop clicking thru in the first place.
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aw3c2将近 14 年前
Since when is Google Trends reliable enough to make valid assumptions about the visitor statistics of a website?
AlexBlom将近 14 年前
Uniques are down, but I'm wondering how much subscriptions have gone up (if at all)?<p>I'm also wondering how many of those 'dropped' uniques are scrapers, quick bounces, etc?
alexinoz将近 14 年前
Something I find interesting to ponder is the value of brands in journalism. The NYT has a great brand and I'm sure most people would associate it with quality journalism.<p>Whatever the outcome for this paper (paid subscriptions and higher cpms or the opposite), I'm more interested in all the other mastheads out there with less brand equity.<p>As a guess I think most people will be more comfortable handing over their hard earned to WSJ or NYT than they will to their local rag.<p>So paywalls IMHO spell doom for all the other papers who don't have the same brand equity / reputation.<p>Would you pay $3.95 for your local paper before handing it to NYT or WSJ?<p>My 2c :)
athst将近 14 年前
I'd highly recommending the documentary "Page One" that just came out, which is about the NYT. It really makes you appreciate the work they do.<p>I know we laugh at their attempts to make money online, but that fact is that it would be a huge loss if they weren't able to continue to do their work.
xbryanx将近 14 年前
I am guessing that they knew their traffic would decrease. What we probably won't know for a while is whether the decreased ad revenue, as a result of fewer impressions, is greater than the increased subscription revenue. Assuming subscriptions have increased.
protomyth将近 14 年前
Are they making more or less money?<p><a href="http://seekingalpha.com/article/264920-the-new-york-times-ceo-discusses-q1-2011-results-earnings-call-transcript" rel="nofollow">http://seekingalpha.com/article/264920-the-new-york-times-ce...</a>
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fleitz将近 14 年前
Yes, but how much is their profit down?