If anyone wants a way to avoid the Flash site now, be sure to check out pianobar[0] and/or Pithos[1]. I've been using them for years in my attempts to completely avoid Flash usage (VLC for YouTube, Vimeo, etc.).<p>0: <a href="http://6xq.net/projects/pianobar/" rel="nofollow">http://6xq.net/projects/pianobar/</a><p>1: <a href="http://kevinmehall.net/p/pithos/" rel="nofollow">http://kevinmehall.net/p/pithos/</a>