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Texas Power Companies Remotely Raise Temps Amid Energy Shortage

36 点作者 Jerry2将近 4 年前

10 条评论

readingnews将近 4 年前
Not to berate the family, but I live in the deeper, hotter, more humid south than Houston. We keep the thermostat on 80 all day, and lower it to 78 at night, as our house is old and not well insulated and it costs a fortune to cool.<p>This makes me wonder, more specifically, my parents had no AC until later in life. My gradparents had none until much later in their life. They lived in the same town as I do. People seem to really get upset about it being relatively mild in their house, and I note this with many of my colleagues (I went to a torture high school with no AC, and my folks did not turn it on much at home as we did not really have the money for it)...<p>Not trying to be an old grumpy person, but we seem to lack a little &quot;eh, Ill be uncomfortable for a short while to help out a straining system that, oh, I don&#x27;t know, needs to stay on to power hospitals and nursing homes and such&quot;.<p>OTOH, I would never consent to having someone else remotely control my IoT device. Sheesh, can you imagine a ransomware attack on that system?
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geoduck14将近 4 年前
People are digging on power companies, but this is likely the future of America- and Texas will be on the leading edge.<p>For power generation, infrastructure is the BIGGEST cost. All of the power lines and generators are sized for the single hottest day of the year. So companies pay big bucks for big power lines and generators that are under used 95% of the time. And &quot;peak heat&quot; only lasts for a couple of hours.<p>There are 2 solutions to mitigate this:<p>1) Solar. Local solar panels can take the edge off of &quot;your house needing power from the grid&quot; - and this helps everyone<p>2) PRE COOLING houses. Our houses can act as storage. At 3:00 pm, 50% of the houses cool down 3 degrees. At 6:00 pm their AC turns off, and the other houses turn their AC on. Thus distributing the load over time.
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toomuchtodo将近 4 年前
Electrical users typically agree to this demand shedding&#x2F;response [1] in return for electrical bill credits, and it requires opt in. I expect Texas will see a pretty rapid uptake in rooftop solar and distributed storage after these events. For homeowner&#x27;s, you can capture a 26% federal tax credit for both solar and storage, and finance the entire system (if you don&#x27;t want to or have the cash) to get a monthly payment that replaces your utility bill (mostly) with the benefit that you&#x27;re self sufficient when the grid fails (if you purchase storage).<p>Until the Texas grid operator and the Texas legislator are comfortable enacting and charging for a capacity market [2] to ensure adequete electrical supply during periods of high demand, you should be prepared to go it on your own [3] [4], which is a very Texan sort of attitude I would think.<p>[1] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Demand_response" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Demand_response</a><p>[2] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.reuters.com&#x2F;article&#x2F;us-usa-weather-power-prices-explainer&#x2F;explainer-texass-one-of-a-kind-power-system-raises-questions-during-price-spike-idUSKBN2AG2KD" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.reuters.com&#x2F;article&#x2F;us-usa-weather-power-prices-...</a> (control-f &quot;What makes the state’s grid different from other grids?&quot;)<p>[3] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=27551254" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=27551254</a><p>[4] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.texastribune.org&#x2F;2021&#x2F;06&#x2F;14&#x2F;texas-power-grid-conserve-ercot&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.texastribune.org&#x2F;2021&#x2F;06&#x2F;14&#x2F;texas-power-grid-con...</a>
bob1029将近 4 年前
I am getting pretty tired of the Texas energy market. I&#x27;ve got a contractor working up a quote for a generator install right now. WFH with the concern of constantly losing power (especially like in Feb where people actually died) is too stressful for me to deal with anymore.<p>How do we feel about every Texas homeowner installing a very inefficient ICE from a car next to their house and relying on it as a means to power their homes for days on end? What would the emissions from 500k+ of these units look like over the course of days or weeks (assuming natural gas supply holds)? Perhaps these questions should be considered when decisions are made that could potentially compromise the stability of the power grid, presumably in favor of certain environmental factors. A combined cycle power plant, even burning some shitty thing like coal, is probably better for the environment than 500k cars driving around at 50% load.
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randrews将近 4 年前
There have been a lot of (I&#x27;ll charitably say) misleading stories about how bad the power system in Texas is lately, and this is one of them: these folks opted into this program, most people foresaw this exact sort of thing happening and did not. Just like the meme about multi-thousand-dollar power bills: they opted into paying whatever the spot price was, and then expected a bailout when the bet didn&#x27;t go their way.
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ruffrey将近 4 年前
When compared to losing power in a rolling brown out, it seems a reasonable option. I only set the AC to 78 anyways. I guess humidity may require lower norms?
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adamfeldman将近 4 年前
Reliant&#x2F;NRG offered me a one-time $25 bill credit for joining the program, as a Nest thermostat user. Not worth it.<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;support.google.com&#x2F;googlenest&#x2F;answer&#x2F;9244031" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;support.google.com&#x2F;googlenest&#x2F;answer&#x2F;9244031</a>
allears将近 4 年前
We typically keep the thermostat at 78 or even higher. If I wear shorts and a tank top around the house, without shoes and socks, that&#x27;s not at all uncomfortable. And a simple electric fan makes it even more comfortable. Either Texans are wusses or this article is clickbait.
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foxyv将近 4 年前
It&#x27;s amazing how bearable 80-85F is when you have a small fan pointed at you. We started setting the thermostat to 82 and using fans. Very comfortable and the A&#x2F;C barely runs now.
mleonhard将近 4 年前
Cool. I think those folks could simply use a fan and sleep fine during the energy rush hour.