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The Sandia Cooler (2016)

82 点作者 RichardHeart将近 4 年前

11 条评论

zinekeller将近 4 年前
ThermalTake has actually released one based on the Sandia design (and Cooler Master flirted with this one), but it&#x27;s not really living on its promises. It works, but there&#x27;s a lot of non-Sandia designs with comparable size that works as good or even better than ThermalTake&#x27;s Sandia-like design.<p>Reviews:<p>Gamers Nexus: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=u2tCnjb6lp8" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=u2tCnjb6lp8</a> (video), <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.gamersnexus.net&#x2F;hwreviews&#x2F;2806-thermaltake-engine-27-review-vs-silverstone-and-cryorig&#x2F;page-2" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.gamersnexus.net&#x2F;hwreviews&#x2F;2806-thermaltake-engin...</a> (text)<p>Quote from Steve: &quot;Ultimately, the Engine 27 isn’t a bad cooler – it performs about the same as similarly sized products, so it’s not some crime against humanity. That said, it’s priced significantly out of its performance bracket, and the high-pitched whine at max RPM can get a bit irritating. You’d want to run this at a lower RPM to account for that.&quot;<p>Linus Tech Tips: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=oCghRn2Zae4" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=oCghRn2Zae4</a><p>Quote from Linus: &quot;The Thermaltake Engine 27 gets my &quot;Better than Nothing&quot; award for working better than I expected given its size, making it a great option if you don’t have anything else that will fit.&quot;
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h2odragon将近 4 年前
The rotating mass of the heat sink would need an enclosure for safety reasons, negating most of the airflow advantages. &quot;Transfer heat through an axle&quot; sounds like one of those &quot;draw the rest of the owl&quot; steps too; no idea how that&#x27;s supposed to work.<p>*edit: Maybe a hydraulic motor where the fluid is turning a big impeller? Torque converter with an open side, kinda thing...
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knolan将近 4 年前
I was working on a so called finless cooler around the time this first rose to prominence. The idea was that a toroidal vortex would give better heat transfer than a lot of fins subject to viscous shear.<p>Our cooler was simply a folded aluminium sheet with a fan placed into a hole in the top. We had a somewhat similar couette type flow under our motor hub directly over the heat source. We had a modest 15% gain over a reference GPU cooler which was almost entirely due to the better thermal conductivity of the aluminium sheet over the cast heat sink in the reference design.<p>It turned out that all that matters is cost, nothing else.
salawat将近 4 年前
Immediately popping into my mind: what rotates it to facilitate pumping, and also, if the top rotates, how is the thermal transmission between the baseplate and the rotating element being facilitated? It&#x27;s either have to be through the axle, or you&#x27;d need some sort of lubricious, yet thermally conductive compound for the rotating element to flow through, which, not gonna lie, sounds pretty magic to me.<p>Also, I&#x27;d need to look into the mechanics of this cylindrical impeller bit more. Boundary layers don&#x27;t go away magically in laminar flow conditions. They might shrink, but they don&#x27;t disappear. I also look at the center of their prototype, and all I see is a debris accumulation point that will become more and more obstructed over time in high debris concentration air. There isn&#x27;t that much preventing dust build up on the top too, which I think may contribute to further build up.<p>Noise, no comment, except I know that if you&#x27;ve got spinning parts you&#x27;ve got harmonics and vibration, audible or not.<p>The burning question for me though, is how does it pan out in test designs. If it keeps stuff cooler under operating conditions, with better MTBF than what we&#x27;re traditionally using, screw it, it&#x27;s better.<p>Especially since in a sense you&#x27;re combining two distinct parts into a single one, which would in theory simplify fabrication. However, that looks to be all metal, so it may not be cheaper than a fan static heat sink combo.<p>Be a fun thing to test and put through it&#x27;s paces to be sure.
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aristophenes将近 4 年前
&gt; The “Sandia Cooler” architecture simultaneously eliminates all three of the drawbacks of conventional air-cooled heat exchanger technology<p>... and replaces them with brand new drawbacks that we aren’t sure how to mitigate
lou1306将近 4 年前
Since we&#x27;re talking about CPU coolers, I hope my comment is not OT: what&#x27;s with the recent popularity of tower coolers? They seem to pop up a lot in PC build discussions, lately. Am I in some echo chamber? Do they provide any obvious advantages over &quot;traditional&quot; coolers?
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orliesaurus将近 4 年前
Pretty happy with my Noctua CPU cooler - I don&#x27;t think it gets better than that with performance&#x2F;noise for the price point (sub $100!) - has anyone found better coolers than those? Interested because I wanna build another PC soon!
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hddherman将近 4 年前
There was this review done a while ago on a product similar to that design, but with some changes made: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;youtu.be&#x2F;oCghRn2Zae4" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;youtu.be&#x2F;oCghRn2Zae4</a>
pontifier将近 4 年前
I&#x27;ve had some interesting ideas related to heat transfer that I haven&#x27;t seen anyone try.<p>First is using suction to remove hot air from deep inside a heatsink. This seems like it would work better than just randomly flinging heated air around.<p>The second involves actually moving the heatsink. Imagine something like the Sandia cooler, but as a centerless ring about a foot in diameter, and spinning at only 1 rpm. The heat source would be at a spot under the spinning ring. A bushing would transfer heat by touching both the CPU and the ring. Each part of the ring has plenty of time to cool down a bit by the time it comes back around to touch the CPU again. Basically there is always cool metal on the other side of the bushing.<p>These are both concepts I&#x27;ve thought a bit about, but just don&#x27;t have time to work on.
Causality1将近 4 年前
I&#x27;m not clear on how high speed is supposed to eliminate fouling. Sure, particles are less likely to adhere but you&#x27;re also increasing the number of particles.
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dogma1138将近 4 年前
Because it doesn’t work <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;youtu.be&#x2F;oCghRn2Zae4" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;youtu.be&#x2F;oCghRn2Zae4</a>
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