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Apple Reportedly Storing over 8M Terabytes of iCloud Data on Google Servers

244 点作者 heshiebee将近 4 年前

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cadence-将近 4 年前
All the data is encrypted so it doesn’t matter where they are storing it. Using multiple service providers (Google, Amazon, their own servers, etc) might actually be beneficial because it eliminates one point of failure, especially if they replicate data in a smart way to take advantage of it. It might also speed up access to data.
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adt2bt将近 4 年前
It’s a bit of an open secret among big tech that Apple is a huge user of storage on all major clouds. They manage encryption on their hardware and in return get cheap storage, higher availability and competition from their suppliers. Highly doubt Google has access to any iCloud data other than an estimate of the immense size of the service.
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bravetraveler将近 4 年前
I guess 8 exabytes doesn&#x27;t get the same number of clicks<p>Edit: Not really trying to be facetious, but come on. Apple using a lot of storage at a lot of places isn&#x27;t too surprising
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habosa将近 4 年前
I can&#x27;t tell why this is on the front page of HN. Is the implication that Google would spy on Apple customer&#x27;s data stored on Google Cloud? Google is evil&#x2F;dumb&#x2F;both at times but that&#x27;s completely outlandish.<p>I do find it interesting that Apple could be one of Google&#x27;s biggest Cloud clients though, that&#x27;s very surprising.
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user3939382将近 4 年前
Google and Amazon recoup their investment in processes, tools, and cultivating the institutional knowledge to run massive data center infrastructure by marketing cloud services. Maybe Apple calculated that they would need to do the same to “level up” their data center infra but decided that doesn’t align with their business strategy.
karmasimida将近 4 年前
How much would you pay to store such amount data?<p>8TB hard drive is about 200 dollars nowadays, so this amount of data is about 200m dollars worthy of retail hard drives.<p>Ofc the calculation is super inaccurate, which doesn&#x27;t take redundancies into consideration, and discounted prices for someone like Google to purchase hardware, plus the discount for Apple as a big customer. But had the scale be comparable, in which case, Apple is paying Google billions per year to handle the data storage for itself, doesn&#x27;t sound quite news worthy IMO, pretty price efficient even.<p>Edit: Previously stated 1.6B -&gt; 200m
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hintymad将近 4 年前
Wow! It&#x27;s amazing that with so much data yet Apple still finds it cheaper to store on public clouds instead of building its own storage.
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Dah00n将近 4 年前
I&#x27;m amazed any HN readers could believe Google would want to know what is stored if they could actually read it. That is completely useless to them. What <i>is</i> interesting and useful is who is connecting from where, when, with what. Yet again it feels like Snowden is forgotten. Metadata is what matters in high volume data, not content.
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alister将近 4 年前
It would be interesting to know how that data breaks down -- like photos vs videos vs software backups vs saved movies, etc. I assume that most people stream movies, TV shows, and music these days, and that few people save them to disk. And even for those that do, Apple could deduplicate (i.e., store exactly one copy of Men in Black even if 100,000 people saved it). Software installs are easily deduplicated as well.<p>So that leaves personal photos and videos. Apple has about 1 billion active users, so a back of the napkin calculation suggests that each user is storing 8GB of data. That actually sounds quite low. That&#x27;s 1600 5MB photos without even talking about the crazy storage that personal videos would use.<p>The article talks about how much Apple stores on Google&#x27;s servers, but doesn&#x27;t say how much they store on their own servers or with other third parties. Maybe they have multiple times as much storage on their own servers.
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wdb将近 4 年前
A bit fascinated how 8M terabyte looks like in a data centre How much physical space is needed for that?
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tiffanyh将近 4 年前
That equates to $1&#x2F;month for 320 GB of storage.<p>Seems like a bargain, even at that scale.<p>Note: Apple charges $1&#x2F;month for 50 GB of storage. That&#x27;s ~84% margin Apple is making on their cloud storage service. Though granted they do give everyone 5 GB of storage for free, so the math will be lower (and they will still be generating a profit so long as 1 out of 5 are paying for iCloud storage).
avipars将近 4 年前
Snapchat also uses google cloud...
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rcarmo将近 4 年前
I don’t see why this is news, given that it’s been common knowledge to anyone who has things like Little Snitch running and tracing your network requests to all sorts of online services.
UI_at_80x24将近 4 年前
8,000,000TB = 8,000PB = 8EB
swiley将近 4 年前
Own your data or quit gripping when this happens.<p>On my phone I keep all my personal stuff in git with the remote set to my desktop (it has a public IP) over ssh. My photo stream is just rsynced occasionally over ssh.<p>Not having to deal with this is arguably even more convenient provided your OS vendor doesn&#x27;t intentionally get in the way.
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sydthrowaway将近 4 年前
Are there any high density devices in production that can support planet-scale data storage?
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rootsudo将近 4 年前
Ironic arbitrage, Apple sells it for X, pays google for Y.<p>The absolute state of things.
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ACAVJW4H将近 4 年前
Apple and Google need to give people a chance to manage their own data.
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bastard_op将近 4 年前
Barbarians at the gate, Google and Amazon slurp it all up eventually. How&#x27;s those big ones feel inside your budget, Apple.
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iJohnDoe将近 4 年前
I thought it was pretty well known that nothing stored on iCloud is encrypted.<p>It’s encrypted on your iPhone, but once it leaves your iPhone it becomes unencrypted once stored in iCloud.<p>This is also why they can comply with law enforcement requests.<p>Now, someone may argue that “only Apple can unlock it” if indeed there is any protection at all.<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;fortune.com&#x2F;2020&#x2F;01&#x2F;21&#x2F;apple-icloud-encryption-law-enforcement&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;fortune.com&#x2F;2020&#x2F;01&#x2F;21&#x2F;apple-icloud-encryption-law-e...</a><p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.reuters.com&#x2F;article&#x2F;us-apple-fbi-icloud-exclusive-idUSKBN1ZK1CT" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.reuters.com&#x2F;article&#x2F;us-apple-fbi-icloud-exclusiv...</a>
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