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Why North America's killer heat scares me

79 点作者 the_laka将近 4 年前

13 条评论

throwaway284534将近 4 年前
Respectfully, I’m getting fatigued from hearing about climate changes. Not because I don’t care, but because I feel powerless to do anything major about it. For all the recycling I’ve done, a single factory can undo in just a day.<p>Being defeatist isn’t exactly productive, but hearing that calamities are happening on a daily basis doesn’t help much either. I really do think the only way this’ll get better is after some additional damage is seen and felt by policy makers. Until then, I’ll use my resources wisely and encourage others to do the same.
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savant_penguin将近 4 年前
&quot;What if the &#x27;safe&#x27; carbon budget is zero. We can&#x27;t sugar-coat the potential realities of this.&quot;<p>Compared to what? Living without electricity? Paying 10x for energy?<p>The lack of a real comparison with the real life consequences of a zero carbon budget seems a bit too convenient
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lcall将近 4 年前
While it is important to be good stewards and not pollute etc, I don&#x27;t think we are competent to solve climate issues as a whole, when we can&#x27;t trust each other to keep our word (so much of the time), and especially when we have rejected much specific advice of the planet&#x27;s Creator.<p>At the same time, things can be OK for us in the long run, if we really try to learn what we should do, and do that. I would include praying, honesty, kindness and humility (willingness to learn) among those things. Really there is good reason for hope for the best; these problems are expected now.
jjcon将近 4 年前
A few years ago we would make fun of people who questioned global warming when it snowed… now we claim it is in fact global warming when it’s hot out?<p>Edit: Politicization of individual weather events makes way for bad science no matter how extreme. In general, individual extreme weather events are not evidence of climate change and it is my opinion that everyone sounds stupid when they politicize them. Instead we should be looking at the aggregate historical trends and their weather modeling but that certainly isn’t as sexy.
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firestarter223将近 4 年前
If you point out recent coldness records, you will be lectured about the difference between weather and climate. I think the real issue may be the human delusion that things staying the same is normal (perhaps because of the short life span of humans), and more recently in scientific terms, that averages are normal.<p>About this article I find it odd that it cites Thatcher, of all people. Surely the information she used in the 80ies is outdated by now, and she presumably never was a climate researcher.
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hacknat将近 4 年前
The only thing that can save us from the cataclysm of climate change is technology. It&#x27;s too late for social engineering and politics.
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taylorlapeyre将近 4 年前
I recommend the book “Unsettled” by Steven Koonan for a more empirical look at how these computer models work, and the deficiencies of trying to predict catastrophe with them. For instance, every climate model is wildly off when it tries to predict the climate changes starting in 1950.<p>This article reads like a typical scare piece. The truth is, there’s just so many feedback loops in climate that we just don’t know what’s “responsible” for any particular event. It may not even be a reasonable question to ask.<p>There are things we know: greenhouse gases are rising because of human activity, and their presence will cause an increase in global average temperature at equilibrium. Beyond that, there is so much we can’t predict.<p>For instance, higher temps will cause more water vapor in the air, and therefore more cloud cover. That increases the earth’s albedo by some percentage, which is a powerful effect. Enough to hold off further warming for a while? We don’t know. No climate models agree.
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petermcneeley将近 4 年前
You say the ocean&#x27;s rising like I give a shit You say the whole world&#x27;s ending, honey, it already did You&#x27;re not gonna slow it, Heaven knows you tried Got it? Good, now get inside
jude-将近 4 年前
It&#x27;s all well and good for us folks in the West to talk about reducing consumption, but the reality check we need to hear is that the &quot;West&quot; is no more than 20% of humanity (give or take, depending on how you count).<p>Like it or not, the remainder of humanity is rapidly industrializing. First, no amount of lifestyle changes in the West is going to offset the pollution and environmental degradation this could cause. Second, neither you nor me are in a position to tell them that they can&#x27;t also have the trappings of a Western-level middle-class lifestyle once they can afford it.<p>If humanity wants to get serious about climate change, we need to think big. Really big. Global-scale big.<p>First: energy. How can we get the <i>whole world</i> converted to 100% solar and geothermal in the <i>next 10 years</i>? No more oil, no more gas, no more coal, no more ICEs -- there needs to be a global moratorium on fossil fuel tech to stop CO2 emissions. We should be mass-producing and deploying solar panels like there&#x27;s no tomorrow. We should be <i>giving them away</i> to people (and countries) who will install and use them. Let&#x27;s help industrializing countries <i>leap-frog</i> fossil fuels and go straight to renewables.<p>Second: water. Once we solve the energy problem, we&#x27;re gonna need large-scale desalinization plants. We&#x27;ll want to make so much green energy that desalinizing and pumping ocean water will be <i>cheaper</i> than pumping it from aquifers and rivers.<p>Third: food. Forget about &quot;organic&quot; food -- we need GMOs that resist pests, take less water to grow, and can put up with higher heat and lower quality soil. We&#x27;ll need either a green way of producing meats, or a really high quality meat substitute, because humanity&#x27;s appetite for it isn&#x27;t gonna decrease anytime soon. At the same time, it needs to become &quot;cool&quot; to be vegetarian or vegan, in the way that Teslas made EVs &quot;cool.&quot;<p>Fourth: shelter. Find your local NIMBYs and run them out of town. We&#x27;re gonna need lots of high quality and high density housing to reduce the carbon footprint required to keep modern civilization running. It&#x27;s cheaper and greener to supply water, air conditioning, electricity and sewage to 100 people in 1 building than 100 people in 100 houses. We should be building every single human being a condo in a high rise <i>for free.</i><p>Fifth: manufacturing. Power all factories with renewable energy. If it can&#x27;t be plugged in, make it battery-powered. If it produces waste, find a way to throw green energy at the waste to render it inert (or recycle it).<p>We can achieve all of the above today. Solar is cheap and getting cheaper, and you don&#x27;t need that much of the earth&#x27;s surface area to supply electricity for the whole of humanity. Once you have basically limitless solar energy, you can get cheap desalinization and cheap water pumping, which unlocks mass irrigation and with it, farming capacity.<p>Housing sounds like a tough political problem at first, but few people will say no to a policy of &quot;everyone -- rich or poor -- gets a free condo.&quot; Even existing homeowners would take a second home in a big city, even if all they do is use it for storage or weekend visits.<p>Manufacturing can be made greener and greener as more and more energy becomes available. If energy isn&#x27;t your limiting factor, then you can divert energy towards safe waste disposal -- for example, you could convert carbon dioxide back molecular oxygen and carbon with enough energy. This I think will be key to manufacturing the goods and services that 7+ billion people will want in a sustainable way.
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ex3ndr将近 4 年前
It is super hot in north russia too.
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rglover将近 4 年前
Fearmongering and gaslighting.<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;twitter.com&#x2F;BjornLomborg&#x2F;status&#x2F;1410961875899146249" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;twitter.com&#x2F;BjornLomborg&#x2F;status&#x2F;1410961875899146249</a><p>Edit. Please read this and factor it into your understanding: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;science.house.gov&#x2F;imo&#x2F;media&#x2F;doc&#x2F;Christy%20Testimony_1.pdf?1" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;science.house.gov&#x2F;imo&#x2F;media&#x2F;doc&#x2F;Christy%20Testimony_...</a><p>Edit 2. For the people downvoting me (certainly without considering what I&#x27;ve presented) and others, consider the phrasing here... &quot;killer&quot; heat, &quot;scares&quot; me. It&#x27;s intentionally emotionally manipulative.
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hpoe将近 4 年前
So one question I&#x27;ve had for a while is if we are currently facing such a catastrophe with increased global heat why don&#x27;t we go ahead and start conducting massive explosions to kick dust up into the air. When Krakatoa went off it caused global cooling throughout the entire world because of the amount of matter it introduced into the air so why don&#x27;t we do the same right now at least as a stopgap measure if things are looking so dire?<p>I&#x27;m not trying to be argumentative I just don&#x27;t understand why this is a bad idea?
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throwawaysea将近 4 年前
Climate journalism is often unscientific and this heat wave seems to have triggered numerous alarmist headlines from journalists, who are falsely drawing strong causation between climate change and this event despite a lack of evidence. In this article it seems the author is alarmed due to the temperatures reached, even though climate change likely contributed only a few degrees to the peak temperature.<p>Cliff Mass, Professor of Atmospheric Science at the University of Washington and chief scientist of the Northwest Modeling Consortium analyzed this West coast heatwave event from a global warming perspective, in a post titled &quot;Was Global Warming The Cause of the Great Northwest Heatwave? Science Says No.&quot; (<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;cliffmass.blogspot.com&#x2F;2021&#x2F;07&#x2F;was-global-warming-cause-of-great.html" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;cliffmass.blogspot.com&#x2F;2021&#x2F;07&#x2F;was-global-warming-ca...</a>):<p>&gt; The evidence for a predominantly natural origin of the high temperatures records of last week is compelling, with global warming marginally increasing the peak temperatures by perhaps a few degrees. Without global warming, we still would have experienced the most severe heatwave of the past century.