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Ask HN: Seed investor wants 15% plus 15% esop for $2m. Thoughts?

6 点作者 bloniac将近 4 年前
Does this sound ok as a seed deal?<p>They also want single trigger acceleration.<p>I’m assuming there’s really no scope to negotiate any of this with the investor.

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orbz将近 4 年前
10-15% carve out for ESOP is pretty standard from what I’ve seen. 15% for $2MM also is giving you a $13.3MM (repeating of course) valuation which no one can really speak to without further knowledge of your metrics.
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TechBro8615将近 4 年前
The 15% ESOP is likely negotiable – have they included a side letter so they&#x27;re undiluted by this pool? If so, it&#x27;s in their interest to make it as big as possible now, so that they don&#x27;t get diluted by you growing it later.<p>(Also, everything is negotiable if you get another offer – I would recommend focusing on that.)
rogerkirkness将近 4 年前
ESOP is often at least loosely correlated with round size. You can always increase it, but there&#x27;s some dilution benefits to pushing for a smaller obligation. I would probably go back (given the target ownership) asking for higher cap and 10% esop. Everything is negotiable.
abarrettwilsdon将近 4 年前
All of these are standard terms.<p>Establishing a (standard sized) ESOP is good for the company long term.<p>If you would like better&#x2F;different terms, you&#x27;ll need at least one other firm to offer you a term sheet as leverage.
neximo64将近 4 年前
What does 15% esop mean that you carve out an esop, who takes the esop, you and your team?
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muzani将近 4 年前
$2m for seed seems like a good deal for any amount of equity. At least for software.
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