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Black 3.0 – The blackest black acrylic paint

260 点作者 woliveirajr将近 4 年前

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meetups323将近 4 年前
A neat material. I had a decorative mirror that unfortunately shattered, I was able to paint the backing with this and mount the shards atop. Creates a cool contrast, with the mirror reflecting nearly 100% of visible light and the the backing nearly 0%.<p>I also took some shards of the mirror and coated them with the black, then mounted them throughout the house. It makes it look as if some of my universe&#x27;s texture shards didn&#x27;t fully load or the backface culling algorithm is buggy. :)<p>It an interesting material to look at, the uniformity gives your eye nothing to hold on to, making it hard to focus. I recommend trying it out it for anyone interested, the small bottle is pretty cheap and covers just over a square meter. (I needed a few coats, if you preprocess the surface according to the instructions you&#x27;d probably lose less to absorption and get more coverage)
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dcow将近 4 年前
If you’re wondering why this substance is not available to Anish Kapoor, from Wikipedia:<p>In 2014 Kapoor began working with Vantablack, a substance thought to be one of the least reflective substances known. Vantablack S-VIS, a sprayable paint which uses randomly-aligned carbon nanotubes and only has high absorption in the visible light band, also called the &quot;blackest black&quot; colour, has been exclusively licensed to Anish Kapoor&#x27;s studio for artistic use.[63] His exclusive licence to the material has been criticized in the art world, but he has defended the agreement, saying: &quot;Why exclusive? Because it&#x27;s a collaboration, because I am wanting to push them to a certain use for it. I&#x27;ve collaborated with people who make things out of stainless steel for years and that&#x27;s exclusive.&quot;[64]<p>Artists like Christian Furr and Stuart Semple have criticised Kapoor for what they perceive as an appropriation of a unique material, to the exclusion of others.[65][66] In retaliation, Semple developed a pigment called the &quot;pinkest pink&quot; and specifically made it available to everyone, except Anish Kapoor and anyone affiliated with him.[67][68] He later stated that the move was itself intended as something like performance art and that he did not anticipate the amount of attention it received.[69] In December 2016, Kapoor posted an Image on Instagram of his extended middle finger which had been dipped in Semple&#x27;s pink.[70] Semple developed more products such as &quot;Black 2.0&quot; and &quot;Black 3.0&quot;, which has similar qualities to Vantablack despite being acrylic, and &quot;Diamond Dust,&quot; an extremely reflective glitter made of glass shards, all of which were released with the same restriction against Kapoor as the &quot;pinkest pink&quot;.[71][72]
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kingofpandora将近 4 年前
&gt; &quot;That,&quot; he said, &quot;that... is really bad for the eyes.&quot;<p>&gt; It was a ship of classic, simple design, like a flattened salmon, twenty yards long, very clean, very sleek. There was just one remarkable thing about it.<p>&gt; &quot;It&#x27;s so... black!&quot; said Ford Prefect. &quot;You can hardly make out its shape... light just seems to fall into it!&quot;<p>&gt; The blackness of it was so extreme that it was almost impossible to tell how close you were standing to it.<p>&gt; &quot;Your eyes just slide off it...&quot; said Ford in wonder
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sprior将近 4 年前
When I got my Black 3.0 bottles via the Kickstarter I turned two wooden eggs and painted one with their gold and one with Black 3.0. Here&#x27;s a picture of the two taken in a very well lit workshop: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.facebook.com&#x2F;photo&#x2F;?fbid=10159690521351509&amp;set=a.44313296508" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.facebook.com&#x2F;photo&#x2F;?fbid=10159690521351509&amp;set=a...</a><p>It looks like the black egg was Photoshopped out of the picture, but I promise it looked the same in person and that table used as a background is painted 20% gray.
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parsecs将近 4 年前
I own a bottle of this stuff, and it&#x27;s not really as amazingly black as it looks on camera. Sure, it&#x27;s pretty damn black. But it&#x27;s easy to see the imperfections and stuff up close. There was a video that compared it to black felt, which is pretty similar.<p>And no, this is not Vantablack. It&#x27;s just some special acrylic that can hold a lot of black pigment, and a lot of black pigment. Vantablack needs to be &quot;grown&quot; with high temperatures so its usually seen on aluminum foil and such.<p>Overall, this is pretty cool. I could definitely believe that it&#x27;s the blackest acrylic paint in the world. However it doesn&#x27;t create a &quot;black hole&quot; or anything.
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ChrisMarshallNY将近 4 年前
<i>&gt; Note: By adding this product to your cart you confirm that you are not Anish Kapoor, you are in no way affiliated to Anish Kapoor, you are not purchasing this item on behalf of Anish Kapoor or an associate of Anish Kapoor. To the best of your knowledge, information and belief this material will not make it&#x27;s way into the hands of Anish Kapoor.</i><p>I love drama...
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dan_pixelflow将近 4 年前
There&#x27;s a Tom Scott video about another one of Stuart&#x27;s products, and an explanation for the Anish Kapoor message: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=_NzVmtbPOrM" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=_NzVmtbPOrM</a>
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asah将近 4 年前
I used Black 2.0 and Black 3.0 and kinda prefer 2.0 for most things - easier to use.<p>My favorite project was making a weird edge disappear in the apartment. Notice how the edge and white draw the eye away and create visual noise:<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;photos.app.goo.gl&#x2F;UydkPpEZJUL3jtaF9" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;photos.app.goo.gl&#x2F;UydkPpEZJUL3jtaF9</a><p>When I applied a regular black on the top and 3.0 in the edge, it blends in with the dark window framing, even during the day:<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;photos.app.goo.gl&#x2F;gqjco8jWN5gsKTWf6" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;photos.app.goo.gl&#x2F;gqjco8jWN5gsKTWf6</a>
Sebastian_09将近 4 年前
seems it absorbs a bit less light than vantablack but the comeback at Kapoor is quite fun <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.dezeen.com&#x2F;2019&#x2F;02&#x2F;05&#x2F;black-3-0-stuart-semple-anish-kapoor-vantablack&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.dezeen.com&#x2F;2019&#x2F;02&#x2F;05&#x2F;black-3-0-stuart-semple-an...</a>
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fleddr将近 4 年前
Nice, a niche topic I am in on. I&#x27;ve experimented with a few of these materials for photography.<p>One thing that is good to know is that the extreme darkness you typically see in demonstration videos where any sense of depth disappears, is not true to life.<p>Even indoors, with plain daylight shining inwards, and judging the object with your own eyes, will not give the effect. You&#x27;ll perceive it as gray and extremely matte.<p>The difference can be explained by Youtubers picking favorable light conditions, but also because the camera capturing said video tends to have a smaller dynamic range compared to your own eyes. I believe it has been experimentally established that human beings can detect even a single photon:<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.latimes.com&#x2F;science&#x2F;sciencenow&#x2F;la-sci-sn-human-eye-photon-20160719-snap-story.html" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.latimes.com&#x2F;science&#x2F;sciencenow&#x2F;la-sci-sn-human-e...</a><p>So don&#x27;t expect full magic. Fun can still be had though, like half-magic. I have a background painted with a very dark paint (more on the brand in a minute) with inside of it a figure painted with the same paint. With artificial lighting in my office, you can&#x27;t see the figure at all. When picking up the figure, even directly looking at it won&#x27;t give away any sense of depth.<p>Anyway, the paint I use is Musou Black, which is claimed to be darker than Black 2.0 or 3.0:<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.ko-pro.black&#x2F;product&#x2F;musou-black-paint&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.ko-pro.black&#x2F;product&#x2F;musou-black-paint&#x2F;</a><p>Their darkness is compared by their maximum light absorption rate, supposedly Musou has the highest: 99.4%. Do know that actual absorption depends on your method of painting. Ideally, you thinly spray paint several individual layers for maximum effect.<p>This same company (I promise I don&#x27;t work for them) has a material I find far more intriguing. It&#x27;s called Fineshut Pro.<p>Whereas the paints you can see as organic, meaning the way you apply it matters, the sheet is &quot;pre-engineered&quot;. In the real world, the difference is huge. In particular the sheet also has the full darkness effect in unfavorable light conditions (direct daylight). However, only when light hits at a particular angle.
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davidkunz将近 4 年前
Can&#x27;t wait to mix it with the whitest white to get the grayest gray.
marcodiego将近 4 年前
So dark it makes difficult to note relief. Maybe it is a good choice to paint telescope tubes&#x27; interior.
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isoprophlex将近 4 年前
These ultrablack paints are all carbon nanotube based, right?<p>Sounds pretty carcinogenic to me. The website makes it out to be &quot;non toxic&quot; though. I wonder if I&#x27;m too paranoid... anyone knows what&#x27;s the pigment made of, exactly?
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cbsmith将近 4 年前
Black 3.0 has been around for quite a while, the newest thing is Black Mirror: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.culturehustleusa.com&#x2F;collections&#x2F;black&#x2F;products&#x2F;black-mirror-250ml" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.culturehustleusa.com&#x2F;collections&#x2F;black&#x2F;products&#x2F;...</a>
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MikeDelta将近 4 年前
Man, wish the Rolling Stones had this back in the day when they wanted to paint that door.
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thanatos519将近 4 年前
I have used culturehustle&#x27;s matte paint on most of the stuff in front of me - monitor bezels, speakers, desk - and it makes sure that the lit things appear to be floating in space at night.
dang将近 4 年前
Some past related threads, including about this blackest black and the other blackest blacks:<p><i>Guy Creates Darkest Room with the Blackest Black Paint</i> - <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=25758913" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=25758913</a> - Jan 2021 (1 comment)<p><i>Another Artist Made His Own Superblack–and Now It’s Even Blacker</i> - <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=25402799" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=25402799</a> - Dec 2020 (2 comments)<p><i>MIT creates blackest black that is darker than Vantablack</i> - <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=21118636" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=21118636</a> - Sept 2019 (17 comments)<p><i>Black Blacker Than Vantablack</i> - <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=21093784" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=21093784</a> - Sept 2019 (94 comments)<p><i>New carbon nanotube-metal hierarchical material is 10x darker than Vantablack</i> - <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=20973667" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=20973667</a> - Sept 2019 (68 comments)<p><i>BMW unveils “blackest black” car sprayed with Vantablack</i> - <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=20820000" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=20820000</a> - Aug 2019 (28 comments)<p><i>Vantablack, one of the darkest substances known</i> - <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=19106541" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=19106541</a> - Feb 2019 (4 comments)<p><i>BLACK 3.0 BETA blackest black acrylic paint</i> - <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=19044406" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=19044406</a> - Jan 2019 (2 comments)<p><i>One Artist Has a Monopoly on the World’s Blackest Black Pigment</i> - <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=16873089" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=16873089</a> - April 2018 (1 comment)<p><i>The World’s “Blackest Black” Makes Its Debut–On a Building</i> - <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=16342651" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=16342651</a> - Feb 2018 (1 comment)<p><i>Anish Kapoor is given exclusive rights to Vantablack, the purest black paint</i> - <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=11209692" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=11209692</a> - March 2016 (4 comments)<p><i>New Super-Black, Light-Absorbing Material Looks Like a Hole in Reality</i> - <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=8058840" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=8058840</a> - July 2014 (7 comments)<p><i>Scientists have developed a material so dark that it can&#x27;t be seen</i> - <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=8030459" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=8030459</a> - July 2014 (42 comments)<p><i>Scientists develop material so dark you can&#x27;t see it</i> - <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=8027446" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=8027446</a> - July 2014 (7 comments)
airstrike将近 4 年前
<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.wired.com&#x2F;story&#x2F;vantablack-anish-kapoor-stuart-semple&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.wired.com&#x2F;story&#x2F;vantablack-anish-kapoor-stuart-s...</a>
folago将近 4 年前
Fulgin color straight from &quot;the book of the new Sun&quot; saga.
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faebi将近 4 年前
Why are the dashboards of cars not painted in this or similar colors? I want to have minimum reflections but the temperature is probably the problem.
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tenaciousDaniel将近 4 年前
I really want a mechanical keyboard coated with this.
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kissgyorgy将近 4 年前
This looks like quite confusing to the eye (brain).
runawaybottle将近 4 年前
Here is the BMW Vantablack:<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.bmwusa.com&#x2F;concept-vehicles&#x2F;vantablack-x6.html" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.bmwusa.com&#x2F;concept-vehicles&#x2F;vantablack-x6.html</a><p>I believe it is illegal since no one can see it at night.<p>Video: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;youtube.com&#x2F;shorts&#x2F;17VlV62q5r0?feature=share" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;youtube.com&#x2F;shorts&#x2F;17VlV62q5r0?feature=share</a>
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shazeubaa将近 4 年前
Heh, this feature:<p>• Smells like fresh coffee
echelon将近 4 年前
* THIS MAY BE CARCINOGENIC *<p>Photon absorption chemistry often correlates with electron delocalization. Such chemicals can be reactive and may strip electrons from your DNA if ingested, inhaled, or through dermal contact.<p>Be careful about skin contact and especially inhalation.
donio将近 4 年前
A recent kickstarter, no idea how they compare: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.kickstarter.com&#x2F;projects&#x2F;311352786&#x2F;horizon-black" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.kickstarter.com&#x2F;projects&#x2F;311352786&#x2F;horizon-black</a>
amifty将近 4 年前
Blackest black explains!!!!
inlikealamb将近 4 年前
There&#x27;s a lot of backstory to this... it&#x27;s a dig against Vantablack, which Anish Kapoor (famous sculptor) managed to buy exclusive rights for using in art:<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.wired.com&#x2F;story&#x2F;vantablack-anish-kapoor-stuart-semple&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.wired.com&#x2F;story&#x2F;vantablack-anish-kapoor-stuart-s...</a>
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a9h74j将近 4 年前
I understand the purposes, but from another angle:<p><i>Bikeshedding has reached a new extreme. We are debating what color of black to use.</i>
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