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Bezos donates $100M each to CNN contributor Van Jones and chef Jose Andres

241 点作者 flowerlad将近 4 年前

36 条评论

Zelphyr将近 4 年前
All the critics lobbing cynicism against Bezos, Branson, and Musk saying, in essence, that their money is better spent here at home reminds me of a wonderful scene from The West Wing when one character asks why we have to go to Mars:<p>&quot;&#x27;Cause it&#x27;s next. For we came out of the cave, and we looked over the hill, and we saw fire. And we crossed the ocean, and we pioneered the West, and we took to the sky. The history of man is hung on the timeline of exploration, and this is what&#x27;s next.&quot;<p>I personally don&#x27;t care that these billionaires are spending their money on vacations to orbit. It&#x27;s how we get to the moon and Mars and how we survive as a species. It&#x27;s what&#x27;s next.
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catillac将近 4 年前
There will be a lot of cynicism on this post from the HN crowd, but these are unbelievably good recipients. I have interacted with Jose Andres many times, and go to his DC restaurants when I visit, and he is truly a wonderful soul who spends all his effort helping others. I don’t know much about Van Jones beyond what I see on TV, but if he’s of the same character as Jose Andres, that is stellar and they will both do wonderful things for our world with that money.
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joshuahaglund将近 4 年前
I just think this money shoulda been paid in taxes so we could collectively solve problems instead of some guy hand picking a couple lottery winners.
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hn_throwaway_99将近 4 年前
The really interesting thing to me about this announcement is that it&#x27;s the first time I think I&#x27;ve ever heard about such a large gift being given to <i>individuals</i>, instead of a foundation or non-profit. Curious if Bezos is just testing to see if this type of philanthropy has better results.<p>I&#x27;m also interested in the logistics of a gift this large. I mean, Bezos would have to pay a large gift tax for gifts sent directly to individuals. Obviously he can afford it, but curious if there was some attempt to save on taxes if the end desire is for all of this money to go to charity.
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kennywinker将近 4 年前
Without scale, reporting on donations like this is nothing but PR for the ultra rich.<p>Bezos donated $200M, his net worth: $211 billion<p>Scale that to a normal human’s net worth - let’s take the national average: $121,411<p>And you see that he just gave away the equivalent of $120 dollars. Barely pocket change.
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kypro将近 4 年前
Kind of genius… My understanding as a Brit is that CNN are known to be supportive of progressive economic policies. I suspect they’re also critical of the existence of billionaires like Bezos in a society where many struggle to feed their families.<p>Bribing influential CNN contributors who hold progressive or far-left economic policies is probably one of the better ways to help shift the media narrative towards one that benefits Bezos.
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cratermoon将近 4 年前
Wow between this and the donations Jeffy made a couple of weeks ago [1][2], he&#x27;s either trying to write off as much of the money he made from the pandemic, or trying to whitewash his reputation to distract from criticism of sending himself into space. Or maybe both?<p>1 <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.marssociety.org&#x2F;news&#x2F;2021&#x2F;07&#x2F;14&#x2F;mars-society-selected-to-receive-1-million-from-blue-origins-club-for-the-future&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.marssociety.org&#x2F;news&#x2F;2021&#x2F;07&#x2F;14&#x2F;mars-society-sel...</a><p>2 <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;airandspace.si.edu&#x2F;newsroom&#x2F;press-releases&#x2F;smithsonian-receive-historic-200-million-donation-jeff-bezos" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;airandspace.si.edu&#x2F;newsroom&#x2F;press-releases&#x2F;smithsoni...</a>
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zapnuk将近 4 年前
If billionaires entrust their money to more or less random people for philanthropic objectives I rather have them be taxed higher and let a (somewhat inefficient) government decide how to invest the money.<p>At least I had a role in electing the government and can change my vote based on their performance.
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roody15将近 4 年前
What an overtly political move by Bezos. He could have donated to libraries, schools, medical research … nope donates to defacto narrative control.
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pcrh将近 4 年前
It&#x27;s seriously distracting that the headline describes these recipients as &quot;CNN contributors&quot;....
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amirhirsch将近 4 年前
As a percentage of net worth, this is like me donating $200. He can afford to give away $100M every week forever on compounding interest alone. When I&#x27;m a billionaire the space suits will be purple.
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sakopov将近 4 年前
I know that Bezos can do whatever he wants with this money, but this is bizarre. If I read news like this in Russian media I&#x27;d think it&#x27;s a clever bribe. But I guess in the US it&#x27;s called a &quot;charitable donation&quot; and everyone just shrugs their shoulders and think it&#x27;s some kind of new charitable tactic. This is literally how you buy narrative from a giant media network and make it look like you&#x27;re a cool dude just raining free money on people.
inetsee将近 4 年前
If I had $200 million lying around, I&#x27;d be more inclined to give $1 million each to 200 people.
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JBiserkov将近 4 年前
&gt;Blue Origin has received $181M in public funding since 2019, and is slated to get over $300M more by 2024.<p>&gt;One might think of this, then, as Bezos giving our money to people he likes in return for good PR and personal tax benefits.
readonthegoapp将近 4 年前
Van Jones left activist-town a long time ago -- and he&#x27;s been called out for it.<p>But as an already-rich person, to agree to be fully, comprehensively bought....this world is crazy.<p>...adding, I&#x27;m available for $10M. negotiable.
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agomez314将近 4 年前
Proof that people with a lot of money don&#x27;t always know what to do with it
pphysch将近 4 年前
It&#x27;s interesting that Bezos is coming out with these big PR initiatives after stepping down as Amazon CEO. As the world&#x27;s richest individual and face of Amazon, he endured a lot of (perhaps justified) smear campaigns, but didn&#x27;t really fight back in a major way, like target the (more wealthy) Waltons or something. The MBS phone hacking scandal got a terse, professional Medium article.<p>It&#x27;s also interesting to note that the horrendous stories of Frito Lay factory worker conditions are coming out now, despite being a widespread and longstanding issue. Previously, the media narrative around poor work conditions was all &quot;Amazon, Amazon, Amazon&quot;, with little indication that it&#x27;s a systemic issue with--let&#x27;s be honest--far worse cases in America.<p>Now Bezos is going full throttle. To what end? Why not operate from the shadows on a megayacht? If it is all ego, why not do this populism drive earlier to mitigate some of the damage?
okareaman将近 4 年前
0.001 (200M&#x2F;200B) of his wealth for some great PR to clean up his greedy image? Not bad for pocket change.
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flowerlad将近 4 年前
So this money is for the recipients for to use as they please, including for personal use? Or are they required to donate to causes they care about?
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motohagiography将近 4 年前
The recipients seem like earnest people who have done a lot of good, and the money will supercharge what they do.<p>Personally, I think that if I had a really good plan for $100m I could probably raise it because there is a highly competitive sellers market for things that you can put that much money into and create value from it. I just don&#x27;t have that plan. :)<p>There are a zillion holes to throw money down, but something that can sustain its value and grow? Bezos&#x27; decision was probably the same as a regular investment &quot;team, market, product&quot; call: there&#x27;s a real problem that a lot of people have, and here is a long list of people who want to solve it but nobody has a complete solution yet, and if I had to choose the top ones to get exposure to - to make a difference on this problem, these two guys are the best ones I can find to figure out what the solution is, so I&#x27;m in for $100m apiece. Same game as any angel or startup investor, he&#x27;s just playing at the three-comma table.<p>I genuinely believe the path to that table starts by challenging ourselves to think bigger, which means doubling down when it&#x27;s the hardest, and testing assumptions when it&#x27;s easy. It&#x27;s not sufficient, but it is the necessary condition.<p>Think of a problem that people with effectively infinite resources would invest in solving and start working on it. To them $100m is a rounding error, what they don&#x27;t see are credible plans or track records for making the change they would invest in. Jones and Andres had it. The money isn&#x27;t a prize, it&#x27;s an investment and a bet. I wish them luck.
robertlf将近 4 年前
I suspect Bezos&#x27;s PR person came up with this after that stupid you all paid for this comment he made.
jl2718将近 4 年前
I’m not upset that he isn’t paying taxes. I’m upset that he’s paying for leverage on other people’s taxes.<p>But Bezos did not create this system, he’s just using it to his advantage, exactly the way it was designed. At least he’s transparent about it.
mucholove将近 4 年前
Dudes and dudettes. Before you ask for higher taxes—hear me out.<p>First, recognize the trajectory.<p>Bezos is the definition of someone living out the American dream.<p>The corporate interest may be trending towards a monopoly—but this is a guy who was abandoned by his biological father, adopted by an immigrant, and was able to use his skills, smarts and efforts to achieve the easiest way for me to buy something.<p>Second—for all the taxes paid directly and indirectly in the US, the CDC and the FDA could not respond to this pandemic with any sort of competence.<p>Do I trust these people with money? No.<p>They could have spent 800 million dollars and avoided a pandemic—but once it started up again they just find it so easy to spend money like gangbusters.<p>This is a complicated issues. But before asking for higher taxes, ask for better constitutions.<p>PS-for my money, your tax rate should be based on lifetime earnings. I would love to know how to switch from yearly, to lifetime.
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georgeplusplus将近 4 年前
Is there some reason to believe the work of Blue Origin and Virgin Galactic will stop at tourism? Couldnt their designs progress to offering sub orbital flights across the world in record times?
imwillofficial将近 4 年前
Anyone curious why those two got 100mil each?
dataminer将近 4 年前
Great donations, we need more bridges among different groups of people, and we should all work to make hunger a problem of the past, around 800 million people sleep hungry every day.<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.who.int&#x2F;news&#x2F;item&#x2F;15-07-2019-world-hunger-is-still-not-going-down-after-three-years-and-obesity-is-still-growing-un-report" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.who.int&#x2F;news&#x2F;item&#x2F;15-07-2019-world-hunger-is-sti...</a>
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rajacombinator将近 4 年前
That’s some expensive wokewashing.
dukeofdoom将近 4 年前
This is the same guy that has his employees pee in bottles to make quotas. I guess he&#x27;s rewarding people that helped him over the last year. I can see how CNN deserves it for being so kind to him and not criticize too much the lockdowns. Though I feel like part of that money should have gone to BLM for helping his business grow too.
WalterBright将近 4 年前
It&#x27;ll be very interesting to see what Jones and Andres do with the money.
ramesh31将近 4 年前
So billionaires are upvoting people IRL now
1vuio0pswjnm7将近 4 年前
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corban1将近 4 年前
I remember Van Jones saying American people&#x27;s vote for Trump was a &quot;whitelash&quot;. And Bezos is saying he tried to be a unifier in a divisive world. We live in a strange society.
ironfootnz将近 4 年前
In other countries this would be considered bribes
dd444fgdfg将近 4 年前
I&#x27;m glad billionaires like Bezos exist. They can choose to fund grand visions when people who need votes either don&#x27;t, or they do and the funding gets cut after the next election.<p>This is one of the ways China is able to execute long term strategy better than the west, they can maintain focus.<p>We&#x27;re not able to do that without a significant necessity (winning a cold war).<p>Get over your jealousy of the billionaires. Some people are luckier than you, smarter, work harder. That&#x27;s just life.
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balozi将近 4 年前
Bezos isn&#x27;t known for being dumb with his money. So, I am curious about his motivation in this case. What is the deep reptilian part of his tycoon brain telling him? Is he buying positive press after yesterday&#x27;s show? Does he care about the cause? Or is he buying a 1990 Cutlass Supreme from Jones on the down-low?
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shawnk将近 4 年前
It’s the billionaire race not only did he reach outer space as he said he would, I know he wanted to be the first BILLY to do it. Branson bear him to it.. so he says ok.. I wasn’t the first to do it but I’ll be the first to dig into my bag and give away some life changing money. Which will spread the news of Blue origin even further.